Problem GPU/CPU???

juju

SU folks don't reccommend doctored drivers anyway.

That's the easy way out of driver issues. On my old machine (with an ATi GFX card) I only used the Omega drivers, without a hitch what-so-ever. They're really good.

B.Lamein

Then wich cards are the best acoording to you all, whit which cards are you working with?

It doesn`t matter which brand or type or else, I just want to make a list for myself whit alle the cards so I can make my decision of choosing a card!

I hope you can help me.

Greetings

remus

I'll do the nVidia cards, but i dont know much about the ATI cards, so i'll leave those for someone else.

From Best to Worst (for SU):
Nvidia Quadro series

Nvidia 7000 series

Nvidia 8000/9000(dont know about the 9000, so im just guessing) series

Any other Nvidia cards

To expand a bit on that, its more to do with the quality of the drivers available for the cards than the cards thmeselves. Specifically the level of openGL support they provide. The quadro cards have the bes openGL support, and so they're the best cards to use with SU.

B.Lamein

@remus said:

I'll do the nVidia cards, but i dont know much about the ATI cards, so i'll leave those for someone else.

From Best to Worst (for SU):
Nvidia Quadro series

Nvidia 7000 series

Nvidia 8000/9000(dont know about the 9000, so im just guessing) series

Any other Nvidia cards

To expand a bit on that, its more to do with the quality of the drivers available for the cards than the cards thmeselves. Specifically the level of openGL support they provide. The quadro cards have the bes openGL support, and so they're the best cards to use with SU.

Ok thanks for your anser but isn`t it true that the 7000 series are the older series than the 8000 and 9000 series, so the 9000 series should be better than te 7000 series?

And the Quadro cards can I play good games whit it since I also use my PC for private.

remus

Very rue, but i was doing it based on how well the cards work with SU, and to the best of my knowledge, the 7000 series cards are generally a safer option for SU as there have been a few issues with 8000 series cards. I assumed this is the same for 9000 cards as well.

If we're talking about gaming performance, then yes, the 8000 and 9000 cards would be a better choice.

B.Lamein

Thanks for the replies!

Are there more people who can tell me about their experiences whit graphics cards, which are the best or which cards they use?

I`m really interseted in all this, so please help me!

gata

Review the list of cards to avoid in maintenance release 2 notes http://docs.google.com/View?docid=ajg9d7mmp8rt_4gp925h, the section on Vista issues.

Re Omega drivers, developers will not test product on everything. It's unrealistic. With my ATI and NVidia cards, I never experienced graphics issue that would cause me to look for something 'better'.

Anyway, your GPU also has to play nice with your operating system, CPU, other assorted drivers, software, BIOS settings, running processes, hardware, your modeling needs, etc. This is one of the reasons it's hard to tailor-fit these hardware/software questions.

Anssi

@gata said:

Review the list of cards to avoid in maintenance release 2 notes http://docs.google.com/View?docid=ajg9d7mmp8rt_4gp925h, the section on Vista issues.

Re Omega drivers, developers will not test product on everything. It's unrealistic. With my ATI and NVidia cards, I never experienced graphics issue that would cause me to look for something 'better'.

Anyway, your GPU also has to play nice with your operating system, CPU, other assorted drivers, software, BIOS settings, running processes, hardware, your modeling needs, etc. This is one of the reasons it's hard to tailor-fit these hardware/software questions.

The card list quoted is about Vista compliancy. Let's hope that the driver situation has improved since. For me, the Quadro FX 1400, for instance, works faultlessly with XP. I don't know why the manufacturers so often mess up with their driver releases. I strongly recommend that when you find a driver version that works, stick with it. My other home computer has an old ATI All-in-Wonder card that also works OK if I keep Fast Feedback off, and I haven't dared to upgrade the driver for years.

Anssi

Gaieus

I have an ATI Radeon FX550 (I think) and have no problem with it though it (and its driver) is more than 2 years old. I haven't even had problems during the tests.

juju

@b.lamein said:

And the Quadro cards can I play good games whit it since I also use my PC for private.

Quadro cards are absolutely crap for gaming.

sintra

Sorry to highjack this thread

Coen, i just ordered a precision m90 whats it like with sketchup and also in general

thanks

Darren

TaffGoch

Darren,

I also have Precision M90, which I purchased last November. The graphics card is the nVidia Quadro FX 1500M. (Operating system Windows XP Pro SP2)

I'm using the two-year old nVidia driver from DELL, version 84.29

As long as I keep anti-aliasing off, I've had zero problems in SketchUp. Most of the time, even anti-aliasing works fine. As far as games, I haven't had any problems running 'Half-Life/Orange Box' at full speed; all graphic features enabled (on a 1920x1200 pixel screen, at that!)

I can't comment on Vista, but I will tell you that I purposely avoided it, in favor of WinXP (I prefer not to serve as a guinea pig for Microsoft, thank you very much.)

Regards,
Taff

Gaieus

I don't have AA on in SU either. Although for many it "looks" better but who cares with those slightly jaggy lines while modeling? When it comes to 2D export, AA is dealt with by the software anyway so you won't have ugly output (not to speak of post-process).

sintra

Hi Thanks for replies

I have got one with the T1600M

Also how do i turn off AA in sketchup ?

Kind regards

Darren

sketch3d.de

@b.lamein said:

which are the best or which cards they use?

for SU = nVidia Quadro FX series (nothing else)

nVidia GeForce series might work too but no guarantees of course. If you are just playing around, probably the best bang for the buck.

Norbert

Gaieus

@sintra said:

...Also how do i turn off AA in sketchup ? ...

Go to Window > Preferences > OpenGL settings and there you can turn hardware acceleration on/off and when it's on, at the bottom you have a couple of options to set (depending on the driver, several AA settings, too). Experiment with them to find a good balance between performance and look.