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    • C Offline
      cadmunkey
      last edited by

      Your Ati card could be the problem. I remember since using version 4 of sketchup that @Last software always recommended an Nvidia card rather than an Ati.
      Hope the modified drivers solve your problem tho πŸ‘

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      • J Offline
        johnster
        last edited by

        I have switched from ATI HD2600Pro to NVidia Geforce8500GT coz i can't use hardware acceleration due to ATI's openGL driver problem.. Now im happy with my 8500GT... 😍

        Take it from my experience some ATI drivers are not 100% compatible with SU. πŸ˜‰

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        • B Offline
          B.Lamein
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          First I did forget to say that I have both a XP and a Vista system, is there any difference between that?

          I don`t think I get it fixed with te omega drivers, maybe I used the wrong version (I used de newest one)?

          Is there anyone who have tried it with the omega drivers on a HD 2900 XT and it worked?

          If this all wont work Ill buy a nvidia card, but are there any recommendations of wich card I should take (not the quadro cards, to expensive and can`t play good games with it)?, so just the regular nvidia cards.

          And is it an option to intsall firegl drivers or doesn`t that work at all?

          Hope to hear from you all.

          Greetings

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            gata
            last edited by

            Vista does not natively support OpenGL.

            I had less video quirks with my Radeon x1950 Pro card on my defunct machine than with my current EVGA NVidia 8600 GTS. SU behavior was equal. I only used ATI driver on the old card. SU folks don't reccommend doctored drivers anyway.

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            • jujuJ Offline
              juju
              last edited by

              @gata said:

              SU folks don't reccommend doctored drivers anyway.

              That's the easy way out of driver issues. On my old machine (with an ATi GFX card) I only used the Omega drivers, without a hitch what-so-ever. They're really good.

              Save the Earth, it's the only planet with chocolate.

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              • B Offline
                B.Lamein
                last edited by

                Then wich cards are the best acoording to you all, whit which cards are you working with?

                It doesn`t matter which brand or type or else, I just want to make a list for myself whit alle the cards so I can make my decision of choosing a card!

                I hope you can help me.

                Greetings

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                • R Offline
                  remus
                  last edited by

                  I'll do the nVidia cards, but i dont know much about the ATI cards, so i'll leave those for someone else.

                  From Best to Worst (for SU):
                  Nvidia Quadro series

                  Nvidia 7000 series

                  Nvidia 8000/9000(dont know about the 9000, so im just guessing) series

                  Any other Nvidia cards

                  To expand a bit on that, its more to do with the quality of the drivers available for the cards than the cards thmeselves. Specifically the level of openGL support they provide. The quadro cards have the bes openGL support, and so they're the best cards to use with SU.

                  http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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                    B.Lamein
                    last edited by

                    @remus said:

                    I'll do the nVidia cards, but i dont know much about the ATI cards, so i'll leave those for someone else.

                    From Best to Worst (for SU):
                    Nvidia Quadro series

                    Nvidia 7000 series

                    Nvidia 8000/9000(dont know about the 9000, so im just guessing) series

                    Any other Nvidia cards

                    To expand a bit on that, its more to do with the quality of the drivers available for the cards than the cards thmeselves. Specifically the level of openGL support they provide. The quadro cards have the bes openGL support, and so they're the best cards to use with SU.

                    Ok thanks for your anser but isn`t it true that the 7000 series are the older series than the 8000 and 9000 series, so the 9000 series should be better than te 7000 series?

                    And the Quadro cards can I play good games whit it since I also use my PC for private.

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                    • R Offline
                      remus
                      last edited by

                      Very rue, but i was doing it based on how well the cards work with SU, and to the best of my knowledge, the 7000 series cards are generally a safer option for SU as there have been a few issues with 8000 series cards. I assumed this is the same for 9000 cards as well.

                      If we're talking about gaming performance, then yes, the 8000 and 9000 cards would be a better choice.

                      http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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                      • B Offline
                        B.Lamein
                        last edited by

                        Thanks for the replies!

                        Are there more people who can tell me about their experiences whit graphics cards, which are the best or which cards they use?

                        I`m really interseted in all this, so please help me!

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                        • G Offline
                          gata
                          last edited by

                          Review the list of cards to avoid in maintenance release 2 notes http://docs.google.com/View?docid=ajg9d7mmp8rt_4gp925h, the section on Vista issues.

                          Re Omega drivers, developers will not test product on everything. It's unrealistic. With my ATI and NVidia cards, I never experienced graphics issue that would cause me to look for something 'better'.

                          Anyway, your GPU also has to play nice with your operating system, CPU, other assorted drivers, software, BIOS settings, running processes, hardware, your modeling needs, etc. This is one of the reasons it's hard to tailor-fit these hardware/software questions.

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                            Anssi
                            last edited by

                            @gata said:

                            Review the list of cards to avoid in maintenance release 2 notes http://docs.google.com/View?docid=ajg9d7mmp8rt_4gp925h, the section on Vista issues.

                            Re Omega drivers, developers will not test product on everything. It's unrealistic. With my ATI and NVidia cards, I never experienced graphics issue that would cause me to look for something 'better'.

                            Anyway, your GPU also has to play nice with your operating system, CPU, other assorted drivers, software, BIOS settings, running processes, hardware, your modeling needs, etc. This is one of the reasons it's hard to tailor-fit these hardware/software questions.

                            The card list quoted is about Vista compliancy. Let's hope that the driver situation has improved since. For me, the Quadro FX 1400, for instance, works faultlessly with XP. I don't know why the manufacturers so often mess up with their driver releases. I strongly recommend that when you find a driver version that works, stick with it. My other home computer has an old ATI All-in-Wonder card that also works OK if I keep Fast Feedback off, and I haven't dared to upgrade the driver for years.

                            Anssi

                            securi adversus homines, securi adversus deos rem difficillimam adsecuti sunt, ut illis ne voto quidem opus esset

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                              Gaieus
                              last edited by

                              I have an ATI Radeon FX550 (I think) and have no problem with it though it (and its driver) is more than 2 years old. I haven't even had problems during the tests.

                              Gai...

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                                juju
                                last edited by

                                @b.lamein said:

                                And the Quadro cards can I play good games whit it since I also use my PC for private.

                                Quadro cards are absolutely crap for gaming.

                                Save the Earth, it's the only planet with chocolate.

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                                • S Offline
                                  sintra
                                  last edited by

                                  Sorry to highjack this thread 😳

                                  Coen, i just ordered a precision m90 whats it like with sketchup and also in general ❓

                                  thanks

                                  Darren

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                                  • TaffGochT Offline
                                    TaffGoch
                                    last edited by

                                    Darren,

                                    I also have Precision M90, which I purchased last November. The graphics card is the nVidia Quadro FX 1500M. (Operating system Windows XP Pro SP2)

                                    I'm using the two-year old nVidia driver from DELL, version 84.29

                                    As long as I keep anti-aliasing off, I've had zero problems in SketchUp. Most of the time, even anti-aliasing works fine. As far as games, I haven't had any problems running 'Half-Life/Orange Box' at full speed; all graphic features enabled (on a 1920x1200 pixel screen, at that!)

                                    I can't comment on Vista, but I will tell you that I purposely avoided it, in favor of WinXP (I prefer not to serve as a guinea pig for Microsoft, thank you very much.)

                                    Regards,
                                    Taff

                                    "Information is not knowledge." -- Albert Einstein

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                                    • GaieusG Offline
                                      Gaieus
                                      last edited by

                                      I don't have AA on in SU either. Although for many it "looks" better but who cares with those slightly jaggy lines while modeling? When it comes to 2D export, AA is dealt with by the software anyway so you won't have ugly output (not to speak of post-process).

                                      Gai...

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                                      • S Offline
                                        sintra
                                        last edited by

                                        Hi Thanks for replies πŸ˜‰

                                        I have got one with the T1600M πŸ˜‰

                                        Also how do i turn off AA in sketchup ?

                                        Kind regards

                                        Darren

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                                        • sketch3d.deS Offline
                                          sketch3d.de
                                          last edited by

                                          @b.lamein said:

                                          which are the best or which cards they use?

                                          for SU = nVidia Quadro FX series (nothing else)

                                          nVidia GeForce series might work too but no guarantees of course. If you are just playing around, probably the best bang for the buck.

                                          Norbert

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                                          • GaieusG Offline
                                            Gaieus
                                            last edited by

                                            @sintra said:

                                            ...Also how do i turn off AA in sketchup ? ...

                                            Go to Window > Preferences > OpenGL settings and there you can turn hardware acceleration on/off and when it's on, at the bottom you have a couple of options to set (depending on the driver, several AA settings, too). Experiment with them to find a good balance between performance and look.

                                            Gai...

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