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    • L Offline
      lrsuser
      last edited by

      Nice exercise. I have been wanting to do something similar for a long time to better understand idiosyncrasies of diff. rendering engines, mainly indigo/vray/podium for me, but never found time...not even on a weekend.. ๐Ÿ˜„
      really impressed by vray time vs indigo time.
      Thanks!

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      • AnssiA Offline
        Anssi
        last edited by

        Kwistenbiebel,

        A great comparison. You seem to be a master of all rendering engines-the lighting was very realistic in every one. Only the Kerkythea one seemed to have too much light reflecting from the grass.

        All the similar comparisons I have seen in the past have shown the author to be either biased toward his/her favourite application, or then that he/she has clearly not known how to use some of them. This time this has not bee the case.

        I would like to hear your comments about the usability of the different systems, and how difficult you find the setting up required to get these outstanding results.

        Anssi

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        • david57D Offline
          david57
          last edited by

          Nice dark shadows on the Fry Render. Like this the best. For KT
          i reduce the shadow color value below 0, maybe -0.01, Sometimes.

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          • J Offline
            jasonh1234
            last edited by

            "If you increase the fremtion to 12 or so the THV will auto-adjust the kull weight of the spline. And cut your render time to half of that of what YEQ took."

            There! Now you know how I felt while I was trying to read all that. ๐Ÿ˜†
            I'm sure it will slowly start to make sense to me though.

            Thanks so much for posting the comparison shots. As someone who's just trying to get into rendering it's helpful to see the differences and hear (even approximately) the differences in render times.

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            • N Offline
              nscheiter
              last edited by

              Hey Kwistenbiebel,

              Id be interested in hearing where you got those 3d landscape items from. Are they evermotion too? and the best way you got them into your scene.
              Good work my friend, good work.

              -Neill

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              • A Offline
                andeciuala
                last edited by

                great work, could you share that texture used on grass? please, its amazing.

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                • L Offline
                  Loewenkatze
                  last edited by

                  Kwistenbiebel,

                  really impressive work... and a pleasure to see which house you chose for that comparison...

                  btw... what happened to the handrail of the balcony in the KT render? Did it get lost due to the ten different export-pieces from SU to KT?

                  Cheers,
                  Franziska

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                  • DanielD Offline
                    Daniel
                    last edited by

                    They look great, although if I had to pick one as my fav it would be the first - it just appears crisper to me. I also noticed the top rail is missing in the Kerky render.

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                    • K Offline
                      kwistenbiebel
                      last edited by

                      Thank you all for the kind remarks.
                      Indeed, I missed the handrail in the Kzrkythea export.
                      The vegetation is partially Evermotion, and partially 3Dwarhouse which I adapted to my taste.

                      I finally got the chance to render the scene with Podium.
                      So this is a little update.

                      PODIUM RENDER 1.5.1

                      http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r3/kwistenbiebel1/SCHMINKE-HOUSE-SHAROUN-PODIUM-kl-1.jpg

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                      • soloS Offline
                        solo
                        last edited by

                        Thats awesome Biebel, if I was to choose the one I like best I'd probably be jeered off for being biased so I won't mention it. ๐Ÿ’š ๐Ÿ˜’

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                        • D Offline
                          DzineTech
                          last edited by

                          I know what you mean as I'm biased to vray and its the image I like the best, although I would have used IR+LC for the render which I'm sure would yield a better image than the Universal settings. The Podium image is pretty nice though.

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                            ScottPara
                            last edited by

                            Hands down I think the podium render looks the best and has the best overall feel to it.

                            Scott

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                            • FrederikF Offline
                              Frederik
                              last edited by

                              @unknownuser said:

                              Hands down I think the podium render looks the best and has the best overall feel to it.

                              I agree with you on that, Scott...
                              However, when knowing that Kwistenbiebel used the v. 1.5.1, where Kerkythea is the engine behind, you can start wondering why the render made using KT wasn't looking that good... ๐Ÿ˜’
                              Both renders should be very close to identical..! ๐Ÿ˜‰

                              Cheers
                              Kim Frederik

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                              • StinkieS Offline
                                Stinkie
                                last edited by

                                I'm not altogether sure I like what you're implying. Kwisten's always done his best to advocate - be it in writing or by rendering - the qualities of all the rendering apps he uses.

                                Show some courtesy.

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                                • tbdT Offline
                                  tbd
                                  last edited by

                                  ... mainly because Podium is not using the exact same Kerkythea engine as in KT.

                                  nice work Biebel !

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                                  • FrederikF Offline
                                    Frederik
                                    last edited by

                                    @unknownuser said:

                                    I'm not altogether sure I like what you're implying.

                                    Sorry - but I don't know what or how you're interpreting what I've been writing...
                                    I'm not trying to imply anything here... All I'm saying is that based on the fact that the engine running under the hood of Podium v. 1.5.1 is KT, the result should be fairly identical, but this is not what I've seen in this test... ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                    @unknownuser said:

                                    ... mainly because Podium is not using the exact same Kerkythea engine as in KT.

                                    ๐Ÿ˜• ๐Ÿ˜• ๐Ÿ˜•
                                    TBD - you know that the core is identical, but maybe the settings are different, which's then showing in the result...
                                    Nevertheless, I said that it should be very close to identical..! ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                    Cheers
                                    Kim Frederik

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                                    • StinkieS Offline
                                      Stinkie
                                      last edited by

                                      Clearly, if I've misinterpreted what you said, then an apology is due. Consider this one.

                                      If.

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                                      • FrederikF Offline
                                        Frederik
                                        last edited by

                                        No worries, Stinkie... ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                        Cheers
                                        Kim Frederik

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                                        • StinkieS Offline
                                          Stinkie
                                          last edited by

                                          Allrighty then. Apologies! ๐Ÿ˜ณ ๐Ÿ’š

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                                            notareal
                                            last edited by

                                            I have to add that it's fairly pointless to made deep conclusions with these kind of comparisons, there always so much differences with render engines - even scenes and camera settings can be different, unintentionally. Passion towards one engine can lead different results. Anyhow, it's always interesting to see what one can do with different render engines. Usually in the end - conclusion is clear - use one that you happy with. โ˜€

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