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    Fry- Indigo- Vray- Kerkythea- Maxwell- Podium (added page2)

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    • N
      nscheiter
      last edited by

      Hey Kwistenbiebel,

      Id be interested in hearing where you got those 3d landscape items from. Are they evermotion too? and the best way you got them into your scene.
      Good work my friend, good work.

      -Neill

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        andeciuala
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        great work, could you share that texture used on grass? please, its amazing.

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          Loewenkatze
          last edited by

          Kwistenbiebel,

          really impressive work... and a pleasure to see which house you chose for that comparison...

          btw... what happened to the handrail of the balcony in the KT render? Did it get lost due to the ten different export-pieces from SU to KT?

          Cheers,
          Franziska

          "I think play is the most important thing in the world." [Jacques-Yves Cousteau]

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          • DanielD
            Daniel
            last edited by

            They look great, although if I had to pick one as my fav it would be the first - it just appears crisper to me. I also noticed the top rail is missing in the Kerky render.

            My avatar is an anachronism.

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              kwistenbiebel
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              Thank you all for the kind remarks.
              Indeed, I missed the handrail in the Kzrkythea export.
              The vegetation is partially Evermotion, and partially 3Dwarhouse which I adapted to my taste.

              I finally got the chance to render the scene with Podium.
              So this is a little update.

              PODIUM RENDER 1.5.1

              http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r3/kwistenbiebel1/SCHMINKE-HOUSE-SHAROUN-PODIUM-kl-1.jpg

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              • soloS
                solo
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                Thats awesome Biebel, if I was to choose the one I like best I'd probably be jeered off for being biased so I won't mention it. 💚 😒

                http://www.solos-art.com

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                  DzineTech
                  last edited by

                  I know what you mean as I'm biased to vray and its the image I like the best, although I would have used IR+LC for the render which I'm sure would yield a better image than the Universal settings. The Podium image is pretty nice though.

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                    ScottPara
                    last edited by

                    Hands down I think the podium render looks the best and has the best overall feel to it.

                    Scott

                    Love the fact that some HATE my avatar.....

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                    • FrederikF
                      Frederik
                      last edited by

                      @unknownuser said:

                      Hands down I think the podium render looks the best and has the best overall feel to it.

                      I agree with you on that, Scott...
                      However, when knowing that Kwistenbiebel used the v. 1.5.1, where Kerkythea is the engine behind, you can start wondering why the render made using KT wasn't looking that good... 😒
                      Both renders should be very close to identical..! 😉

                      Cheers
                      Kim Frederik

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                      • StinkieS
                        Stinkie
                        last edited by

                        I'm not altogether sure I like what you're implying. Kwisten's always done his best to advocate - be it in writing or by rendering - the qualities of all the rendering apps he uses.

                        Show some courtesy.

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                        • tbdT
                          tbd
                          last edited by

                          ... mainly because Podium is not using the exact same Kerkythea engine as in KT.

                          nice work Biebel !

                          SketchUp Ruby Consultant | Podium 1.x developer
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                          • FrederikF
                            Frederik
                            last edited by

                            @unknownuser said:

                            I'm not altogether sure I like what you're implying.

                            Sorry - but I don't know what or how you're interpreting what I've been writing...
                            I'm not trying to imply anything here... All I'm saying is that based on the fact that the engine running under the hood of Podium v. 1.5.1 is KT, the result should be fairly identical, but this is not what I've seen in this test... 😉

                            @unknownuser said:

                            ... mainly because Podium is not using the exact same Kerkythea engine as in KT.

                            😕 😕 😕
                            TBD - you know that the core is identical, but maybe the settings are different, which's then showing in the result...
                            Nevertheless, I said that it should be very close to identical..! 😉

                            Cheers
                            Kim Frederik

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                              Stinkie
                              last edited by

                              Clearly, if I've misinterpreted what you said, then an apology is due. Consider this one.

                              If.

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                              • FrederikF
                                Frederik
                                last edited by

                                No worries, Stinkie... 😉

                                Cheers
                                Kim Frederik

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                                • StinkieS
                                  Stinkie
                                  last edited by

                                  Allrighty then. Apologies! 😳 💚

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                                    notareal
                                    last edited by

                                    I have to add that it's fairly pointless to made deep conclusions with these kind of comparisons, there always so much differences with render engines - even scenes and camera settings can be different, unintentionally. Passion towards one engine can lead different results. Anyhow, it's always interesting to see what one can do with different render engines. Usually in the end - conclusion is clear - use one that you happy with. ☀

                                    Welcome to try Thea Render, Thea support | kerkythea.net -team member

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                                      notareal
                                      last edited by

                                      @frederik said:

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      ... mainly because Podium is not using the exact same Kerkythea engine as in KT.

                                      😕 😕 😕
                                      TBD - you know that the core is identical, but maybe the settings are different, which's then showing in the result...
                                      Nevertheless, I said that it should be very close to identical..! 😉

                                      I think difference do come from five different element, missing parts; handrail and 2th floor windows & interior and some missing stone decorations, different grass (or it's mapping), different tone mapping, different image size/ratio and far different render method. Podium uses Photon Mapping, if I have understood right, and with KT Kwistenbiebel used new MLT/BPT, that was not cooked long enough to clear noise. MLT/BPT is actually best suited for difficult indirect lighting conditions, that have hard to produce caustics, blurry reflections... what ever.

                                      Sorry for bad photoshopping, but had to add those missing handrail&window parts and change image size to reveal how great difference those do made. I remove this if needed.

                                      edit: oops... now I see I missed 1st floor handrail too. 😳


                                      Missing_parts_and_tonemapping.jpg

                                      Welcome to try Thea Render, Thea support | kerkythea.net -team member

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                                        kwistenbiebel
                                        last edited by

                                        As a note, this thread is not meant to be a comparison as it was stated in the first post.
                                        :('This is not meant as a comparison thread between render engines. Just an exercise on using them.'
                                        Looks like some of you are making it into one ... 😉

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                                          notareal
                                          last edited by

                                          That was not my intention. I tried to emphasis that render engine comparisons are fairly pointless - but seems to have failed. Anyways what can be done with different render engines is interesting to see, that is what I understood you did, and did it well. But was it interesting to see that small changes in the scene and image cropping can made a huge difference.

                                          Welcome to try Thea Render, Thea support | kerkythea.net -team member

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                                            kwistenbiebel
                                            last edited by

                                            I agree...
                                            Some images probably could have been improved. I just used the (sometimes limited) knowledge on each render engine I currently have....

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