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    • soloS Offline
      solo
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      I use a 11 x 17 AIPTEK tablet for all my conceptual work, design and post processing. I could not imagine post work without it and all my sketch work prior to modelling. I use Alias Sketchbook pro 2.0 for designs and it integrates like a dream with a tablet.

      What I would like to know is if anyone here uses a Cintiq 21"?

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        Jackson
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        Thanks James, that link you posted doesn't actually link to a tablet, just pixmania's front page, but you say you got the Volito and are happy with it so that's good enough for me. I just checked ebay and they seem to be the same price as PC World so I may as well just go to the big purple warehouse- heck I might go one evening this week, I've earned a new toy. Thanks again!

        Jackson

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          solo
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          As far as size goes, I believe that all tablets have a configuration setting to map your area/workspace, obviously the larger the tablet the more adjustability you have with this setting. Now quality does differ based on price, response times, accuracy, customising parameters, Cad integration, stylus functions etc, I suggest getting a basic (cheap) tablet and see if you can integrate it into your workflow before commiting to a high quality cash basher. Like the 3d Connexion products where only 30% of purchased units actually get used, tablets are not as bad but also have the getting accustomed to issues.

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            Jackson
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            @solo said:

            I suggest getting a basic (cheap) tablet and see if you can integrate it into your workflow before commiting to a high quality cash basher. Like the 3d Connexion products where only 30% of purchased units actually get used, tablets are not as bad but also have the getting accustomed to issues.

            Great advice Solo, thanks. I just wondered with such a price difference if the cheap ones would be so crappy to use that they might put you off tablets altogether, but from what you and James say that's not the case- I reckon I'll take the plunge.

            Jackson

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            • EdsonE Offline
              Edson
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              from most of the replies the wacom tablets seem to be to ones to get. looking at their site my impression was that the graphire is the entry level and the intuos seems to be the tablet for those intending to do do professional work without having to spend what a cintiq costs.

              would a graphire tablet be ok for serious image editing?

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              • A Offline
                andyc
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                the graphire works fine for everything I do...

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                • monsterzeroM Offline
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                  @unknownuser said:

                  would a graphire tablet be ok for serious image editing?

                  The main difference between the models is the resolution of the tablet itself, and the range of the pen pressure. A serious photoshop user will want the higher range in both categories. Pen pressure sensitivity is something like 512 for the cheaper models, and 1024 for the higher end. Plus with the Intuos you get the grip pen which in my opinion is more comfortable than the smaller pen.

                  Also, it depends on what you mean by "serious image editing." If you mean that you edit photos or renderings, than the graphire might work for you. But if you do a lot of painterly editing or do hand drawn elements, than the Intuos would be better.

                  My recommendation - if you have a widescreen monitor, or use a dual monitor set up, get the wide screen tablet. I had bought a regular tablet (before they had the widescreen model) and it felt weird to me, because the motion is scaled across the two monitors. The movement of the pen to screen isn't as natural.

                  Most of the artist I work with (and I work with a lot) use the 6 inch tall range of tablets. Mostly because that's the scale they draw in if they are not on the computer, so it emulates their natural drawing motion. So if you draw or paint outside the computer, you might want to think about that as your comfort range.

                  @unknownuser said:

                  Monsterzero- nice vid, but the navigation looks odd- it seems to orbit extremely fast back and forth. Did you sped up the frame rate of that video for posting or is the response of the tablet much quicker than a mouse?

                  Those videos are sped up quite a bit. But I do find that using the tablet has made some actions faster. A flick of the wrist, or circular motion is more precise and is less strain on my wrist than a mouse.

                  If you have any issues with wrist pain, or RSS you might try a tablet.

                  I've tried out the Cintiq and I really want one. But I like my setup now. The one problem with the Cintiq is the screen refresh of certain programs. Because you have a direct response from your drawing to pen, you notice the lag between drawing a long arc, circle or line. You'd get used to it I'm sure. The lag is the same with a desktop tablet, but it's not as noticeable because the hand motion, and the screen results are separated.

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                    RegH
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                    Just a reminder- My Wacom Graphire has a pen and a mouse. (I think most of the other Wacoms have both). The mouse is cordless, no battery, no ball, has a fabric bottom that is not hard to clean. It has 2 buttons and clickable scroll wheel ( I think you can program all buttons). The mouse will only work on the Wacom pad, but that has been no problem.
                    So in some cases, the pen and mouse can be really handy. Also, the mouse does not have a problem with my main "system" wired mouse, which rests next to the keyboard on a slide-out shelf below my desktop. Just another option. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                    • monsterzeroM Offline
                      monsterzero
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                      RegH, good point about the mouse. Mine came with one as well, and I actually don't use it. I think it's still in the box. Plenty of my artist friends still use them. I just happen to really like my current mouse.

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                      • J Offline
                        Jackson
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                        It's ordered.... a Wacom Volito 2 is on it's way to my office- can't wait to play. Will review and report back in a week or so.

                        Jackson

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                        • EdsonE Offline
                          Edson
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                          strange. i looked into the wacon site and could not find the volito model! all i could find were the graphire, intuos and cintiq ones.

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                            Jackson
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                            Edson,

                            Maybe it only a European model? Here's a link to the Volito page on their European site, although it doesn't give much information by which to compare with other models.

                            http://www.my-volito.com/volito/intro.asp?lang=en

                            Jackson

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                            • eevaE Offline
                              eeva
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                              all it shows in the technical specifications is the dimensions, active area and pressure levels. but i guess that's all you need...

                              i hope mine is already on it's way to it's true master ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                                Jackson
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                                @eeva said:

                                all it shows in the technical specifications is the dimensions, active area and pressure levels. but i guess that's all you need...

                                It doesn't show whether it detects pen tilt, which I'm pretty sure the Graphire does, but the Volito 2 doesn't. Also, if the Volito 2 has 1016dpi and the Graphire 2000dpi resolution, but both have an accuracy of +/- 0.5mm, what difference does the resolution make? I'm sure it does make a difference, but the accuracy figures seem a little illogical.

                                One thing puzzles me- I can't find replacement Wacom pen tips anywhere. I found a Wacom link for ordering them, but it was dead. Any long-term Wacom users know where to get them?

                                Thanks in advance.

                                Jackson

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                                  Jackson
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                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  Plan on wearing it out? ๐Ÿ˜†

                                  Yep, I'm a fast worker! Actually I just asked because I read this on Renderosity's Photoshop forum: "Just remember to buy spare nibs, as you'll probably run through them quickly if you're doing lots of modeling."

                                  Jackson

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                                    Well I've been using Wacom tablets for years and I've never worn a pen tip out - the plastic protective covers to the old tablets could get a bit hashed, but not the pen tips.

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                                    • R Offline
                                      robmoors
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                                      Yeah you can damage some tips which simulate fine liner, and markers and such but the good old wacom tip is pretty much bastard proof. Heck I could know I love chewing on it with my front teeth ๐Ÿ˜›

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                                        Jackson
                                        last edited by

                                        OK, cool.... that explains why replacements are so hard to find. Thanks guys.

                                        I'm like a kid at Christmas this week- I can't wait for the postman to deliver my new toy! ๐Ÿ˜’

                                        Jackson

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                                        • EdsonE Offline
                                          Edson
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                                          jackson, just in case you need it, BH Photovideo in NY sells spare pens...

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                                          • monsterzeroM Offline
                                            monsterzero
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                                            I've been using mine for a year and haven't needed to change the tip.

                                            Also, the Intuos comes with extra tips in the box. Not sure about the other models.

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