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      rv1974 @Rich O Brien
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      @Rich-O-Brien 3ef7fd57-d434-49c8-8897-85373f3419c6-image.png
      Thanks for explanation! For some reason Ctrl+Shift shortcut is not working on my end plus its impossible to put V next to Individual Centers option in right click menu. Thats why I had difficulties to understand what this option does πŸ™‚
      In many situations the gizmo looks is extremely confusing. This is what it looks like after local Z rotation: red arch is completely gone, blue one turned to orange and got extended.. I wish it could look closer to the boring normative and predictable industry standard:
      92903129-dff1-4052-aee1-18a041278d7d-3dsmax_Sn2lOcjyw5.gif

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        Rich O Brien Moderator @rv1974
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        @rv1974 said in [Plugin] Axyz - v1.0a - 31 May 24:

        For some reason Ctrl+Shift shortcut is not working

        Its also available via context menu if the keyboard shortcut is proving difficult to fire

        @rv1974 said in [Plugin] Axyz - v1.0a - 31 May 24:

        its impossible to put V next to Individual Centers option in right click menu

        I don't understand this sentence

        @rv1974 said in [Plugin] Axyz - v1.0a - 31 May 24:

        the gizmo looks is extremely confusing

        Use ESC to reset and continue transformations when widget begins to devolve

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          rv1974 @Rich O Brien
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          @Rich-O-Brien said in [Plugin] Axyz - v1.0a - 31 May 24:

          Its also available via context menu if the keyboard shortcut is proving difficult to fire
          I don't understand this sentence
          once being enabled via context menu, it still has no check mark (V) in the beginning of the corresponding line

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            rv1974 @Rich O Brien
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            @Rich-O-Brien Regading nudging via arrow keys.. Currently it nudges randomly (approx. 0.3-0.5 cm) Is it possible to add some option for setting exact nudge value via VCB ( say typing n10 would set it to 10 units)?

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              Rich O Brien Moderator @rv1974
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              @rv1974 said in [Plugin] Axyz - v1.0a - 31 May 24:

              it still has no check mark (V) in the beginning of the corresponding line

              Ruby console output if you click it?

              @rv1974 said in [Plugin] Axyz - v1.0a - 31 May 24:

              Currently it nudges randomly (approx. 0.3-0.5 cm)

              Translation nudging is pixel based

              • Normal: 10 pixels
              • Slow[ALT]: 2 pixels
              • Fast[SHIFT}t: 20 pixels

              We did discuss adding an option in the Settings dialog to add user control over values. I'll make a note of it.

              Axyz' intent to give you artistic control over transformations. Not really a precision design tool. You can leverage precision via VCB input. But its main intent is to offer an easier path to transforms.

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                rv1974 @Rich O Brien
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                @Rich-O-Brien said in [Plugin] Axyz - v1.0a - 31 May 24:

                Ruby console output if you click it?

                nothing:
                97a74664-8774-455b-9f42-739b8392377d-SketchUp_GXayNAmnFj.gif
                IMHO If the user selects any of AXYZ tools its logical to see the gizmo right from the beginning (based on previous settings); currently even if you set it to individual-center the extra click is still needed.

                >>Translation nudging is pixel based
                it's better then say decibels, but file units would be even more awesome
                Here are some other areas where some polishing might be nice:
                Sometimes it arbitrarily decides its a good idea to start copying:
                0ecba735-6bd0-4952-876a-33dba5ce9d67-SketchUp_soAXbMq9lv.gif

                I find it very confusing when staying in individual mode and clicking on it in the RCM for a 2nd time switches you into global (why? it has to be ignored):
                b4598bfb-f547-41ab-ab99-cc3d22e031ab-SketchUp_XAo4bpCxer.gif
                for example, s4u mirror.. clicking on currently being used "copy-duplicate" option for a 2nd time - it won't switch you to another mode, it stays
                unchanged:
                8a830beb-5001-424d-b203-0e31b72cae92-SketchUp_jpuCHZtyFg.gif
                Apropo, after copying with Ctrl.. is it possible to have only the new instances be selected (without original geometry)?

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                  Rich O Brien Moderator
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                  1st GIF.

                  • How are you doing a box select?
                    Dragging on empty space is reserved for widget sizing.

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                    rv1974 @Rich O Brien
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                    @Rich-O-Brien said in [Plugin] Axyz - v1.0a - 31 May 24:

                    Dragging on empty space is reserved for widget sizing.
                    wow, nice!
                    I'm super happy SU finally has some intuitive and easy* to use gizmo-based tool especially for local transforms. Thank you and Fredo for creating and sharing!
                    *- Formerly, for local transforms I had to use s4u transforms but its UI is too extra-terrestrial for me.

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                      Rich O Brien Moderator @rv1974
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                      @rv1974 said in [Plugin] Axyz - v1.0a - 31 May 24:

                      wow, nice!

                      Yes, but in your gif I can see a Box select happening when it shouldn't. Could you have some other tool that is causing this odd behaviour you are mentioning?

                      Glad you find it useful. But your earlier inconsistencies are something I can't replicate my side.

                      For clarity, Individual by Reference is a way to use the widget position as the Pivot Point for transforms per selected object. So if you are switching from pivot to center and rotating then switching back expect Axyz to not know what it is you are trying to do.

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                        rv1974 @Rich O Brien
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                        @Rich-O-Brien said in [Plugin] Axyz - v1.0a - 31 May 24:

                        But your earlier inconsistencies are something I can't replicate my side.

                        061e1612-53ec-496e-bcf4-59ea57f0d10f-SketchUp_ceZ1rJqmM7.gif
                        Select all 5 boxes with the plugin from post 8 and try to copy them via Axyz.
                        I can't just believe you won't crash (however, without copying all transforms would works just fine)
                        https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1w-z7EgWlhjf-OuAFX8lRe5ii0wbxVOIg?usp=sharing

                        =====
                        What exactly do you call "box select"? Blue cage around selected objrcts? but since when it should not happen?

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                          Rich O Brien Moderator @rv1974
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                          @rv1974 Isn't the 'Instances' tool responsible for the crash

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                            rv1974 @Rich O Brien
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                            @Rich-O-Brien Yes and no. without copying Select Instances+Axyz works fine.
                            Maybe you with(?) Fredo could develop a new rock solid version of "select all instances"?
                            BTW many people request "select all instances" that would copy all instances regardless the context to the memory buffer. the 20 y.o. one that I use can't do that.

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                              kiklama
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                              I'm a little disappointed with the complexity, but ok, commendable and the first version πŸ™‚
                              I THINK THAT AXYZ SHOULD UPGRADE MOVE from sketchup and not behave differently!
                              1st selection - without clicking, but in the case of two objects on the floor, when selecting from one object to another, the floor is also selected - unusable in most situations
                              2. the first step is to determine the position of the gizmo? Let it appear immediately in the center at the bottom and you can already start selecting on the gizmo, and if you click somewhere else, the gizmo will move anyway.
                              3. Snap doesn't work, and we're all used to it being on all the time? Turn it on and it works by default according to sketchup, you can also set the option to turn it off by pressing a key (for example ALT)
                              4. When, say MOVE, when I click to mark the arrow, the base point should be in the center of the gizmo and not at the place where I grabbed the arrow.
                              5... if the creator is interested in more detail... because there is potential

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                                TutorialsUp
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                                I don't understand this behavior πŸ€” can anyone explain, it's not working like native rotate tool. for radial array,
                                Tu.gif

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                                  fredo6
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                                  It's a bug, which I'll fix.

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                                    Rich O Brien Moderator @fredo6
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                                    1.1a released and published

                                    Thanks to @TutorialsUp for flagging rotate behaviour

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                                      ACLSU
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                                      Re: [Plugin] Axyz - v1.1a - 8 June 24

                                      AXYZ SKETCHUP EXTENSION IS A GREAT!

                                      RE: AXYZ SCALE

                                      NOTE: I USE A M1 MAC BOOK PRO AND STILL USING SKP 2022VERSION 22.0.353. - HAD TO UNINSTALL 'V23 DUE TO SOME EXTENSION CONFLECTS. WILL TRY TO INSTALL SKP 2024 AFTER MY PURCHASE OF THE M3 LAPTOP.

                                      MY QUESTION:
                                      I SEE HOW TO TRANSFORM SCALE IN 1 AXIS BUT CAN'T FIND A WAY TO TRANSFORM SCALES EVENLY AT EQUAL PROPORTIONS ABOUT THE CENTER. ON 3 AXIS,. DOES THAT TRANSFORMATION EXIST?

                                      AS YOU KNOW SKU'S NATIVE SCALE TOOL DOES THE EQUAL TRANSFORMATION BY CLICKING ON THE SCALE ICON FOLLOWED BY HOLDING DOWN THE SHIFT AND OPTION KEYS.

                                      LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR REPLAY.

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                                        Rich O Brien Moderator @ACLSU
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                                        @ACLSU said in [Plugin] Axyz - v1.1a - 8 June 24:

                                        DOES THAT TRANSFORMATION EXIST?

                                        No, not currently

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                                          rv1974 @Rich O Brien
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                                          @Rich-O-Brien in scaling it'd be nice to add ability for expressions like +30cm or -30%

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                                            alexpacio2013 @Rich O Brien
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                                            @Rich-O-Brien

                                            Compliments. πŸ‘

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