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    Sopper
    last edited by Sopper 23 Jul 2023, 09:27

    scissor_problem.jpgHow can I make a scissor table mechanism that slides in and out. In the attachment I have an example of 3 scissors, but as you can see (in the animation) the outer hinges do not slide properly. They do not act like real hinges. They break up and get back together. Start and end point are good. As the motion in between (opening speed of the scissors) is linear, the rotation speed of the scissor elements should be variable, but I can't find a solution for that. Anyone suggestions?

    schaar_animatie_V01.skp

    scissor_problem.jpg

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      Gus R
      last edited by 23 Jul 2023, 15:55

      I looked at your skp this morning and it should work. It's the same mechanism I used for a wall mounted shaving mirror.

      Shaving-Mirror-2023.jpg

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        Rich O Brien Moderator
        last edited by 23 Jul 2023, 20:12

        The hinge needs a fixed point to act as parent(kinectic master). Then the child(kinectic slave) spins about the parent.

        https://i.imgur.com/OHWf7uw.png

        scissor-hinge[2020].skp

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          Sopper
          last edited by 23 Jul 2023, 21:06

          @gus r said:

          I looked at your skp this morning and it should work. It's the same mechanism I used for a wall mounted shaving mirror.

          [attachment=0:2po8974h]<!-- ia0 -->Shaving-Mirror-2023.jpg<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:2po8974h]

          Is your skp file an animation? If so, give me the file for download please

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            Gus R
            last edited by 23 Jul 2023, 21:25

            Sopper,

            Thought yours might be an animation. Maybe Rich's is one and you can use the same pivots and sliding points.

            www.instagram.com/gusrobatto/

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              Sopper
              last edited by 24 Jul 2023, 06:12

              @gus r said:

              Sopper,

              Thought yours might be an animation. Maybe Rich's is one and you can use the same pivots and sliding points.

              Gus,
              Mine IS an animation. Download and open the file. Than open Fredo6 Animation and start the animation. In practice, the displacement of the shear parts will be constant (linear speed), but the rotational speed of the shear parts will be variable (to keep the outer pivot points on top of each other). I can't find a way to make that speed variable.

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                Sopper
                last edited by 24 Jul 2023, 06:22

                @rich o brien said:

                The hinge needs a fixed point to act as parent(kinectic master). Then the child(kinectic slave) spins about the parent.

                https://i.imgur.com/OHWf7uw.png

                [attachment=0:3s2xt944]<!-- ia0 -->scissor-hinge[2020].skp<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:3s2xt944]

                Rich,
                You drew a single shear element, but can you make me a composition of several scissor elements like in that mirror of Gus? I'd rather you download my file and adjust it so that the hinges actually work as hinges.

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                  Rich O Brien Moderator
                  last edited by 24 Jul 2023, 11:03

                  @sopper said:

                  I'd rather you download my file and adjust it so that the hinges actually work as hinges.

                  I did download the file and provided you a template to rebuild your animation. It is better to try and fail than to not even try.

                  Worth mentioning Animator is still in Beta so irregularities are normal.

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                    ntxdave
                    last edited by 24 Jul 2023, 13:33

                    @rich o brien said:

                    Worth mentioning Animator is still in Beta so irregularities are normal.

                    I thought it had been around for several years. Are you talking about a new version?

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                      Rich O Brien Moderator
                      last edited by 24 Jul 2023, 14:58

                      @ntxdave said:

                      I thought it had been around for several years. Are you talking about a new version?

                      https://i.imgur.com/Kx8yoY0.png

                      It's been Beta since release. Hence the irregularities people encounter.

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                        ntxdave
                        last edited by 24 Jul 2023, 15:17

                        OK, I had not had any problems and had forgotten it shows as beta.

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                          Sopper
                          last edited by 25 Jul 2023, 13:40

                          @rich o brien said:

                          @sopper said:

                          I'd rather you download my file and adjust it so that the hinges actually work as hinges.

                          I did download the file and provided you a template to rebuild your animation. It is better to try and fail than to not even try.

                          Worth mentioning Animator is still in Beta so irregularities are normal.

                          I made the scissor according to your template.
                          But how to arrange the second scissor to follow the first one out

                          schaar_animatie_V03.skp
                          schaar_animatie_V03.skp


                          Scherm­afbeelding 2023-07-25 om 11.30.07.png

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                            Sopper
                            last edited by 26 Jul 2023, 08:48

                            I'm done with Animation… I've tried almost everything to get this scissor mechanism done, but Animation seems te be in lack of many good functions or functions that simply don't work. I was realy hopefull when I started Animation, but it doen't offer what it promeses. I hope that Fredo6 will give attention to Animation in order to make it functional without bugs and lets hope with a users manual. For now… I will give it a try in either Blender or Cinema 4D.

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