Viewing purchased archit. layout files (from Matt)
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I just thought "why not ask here", after on the trimble forum I got smacked for asking
Just where common sense tells they would most welcome that. 
My question, maybe someone here knows? (and doesn't smack):
What is the cheapest price to nowadays have layout, any discount/coupon/voucher for those (older-than-students) who just "play around" for now with make - until one day (hopefully) setting up a business where sketchup skill would be useful?PS (for the curious only):
I consider myself a beginner, and always will (so powerful it is), despite have played with sketchup for a decade. My %$··$" government hasn't given me my rightful correct ID and so my life is still(!) being put on hold unnecessarily, and I still cannot build the business that I've been wanting to build for years (building certain types of homes). Hence why I cannot possibly spend on commercial licences, yet, and that's the only thing that trimble sells if you are 30ys PAST student age
How daft. Microsoft know better, ha! Even &"%$ google do. Both nurture you to be loyal. And so you are. Few understand their business concept, hence why few have their success.
Wondering why layout? 'Cause I bought Matt's archit. package but cannot access the layout templates, not even view them, and realized the purchase was pretty pointless without following along what he explains. Strange thing is, I remember to have had layout (still have it), but since trimble took over (with their more noob business concept) you need a licence to view your own old layout files. I WANT them to earn money, no doubt, and am "happy" to pay them ALSO, just not agreeing to be considered a commercial user, since ... I am NOT. This fact alone shows how noob trimble's business concept and marketing is.
Now you know all my history, feelings, business background, and personal opinion, LOL, what's yours? All of it, please.
(yeah, it's "bank holiday" here, hence why I can write all this today
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The least expensive option to get LayOut is SketchUp Pro. See pricing at sketchup.com. I don't know of any current promotions however you could find a local reseller and ask them.
@unknownuser said:
Strange thing is, I remember to have had layout (still have it), but since trimble took over (with their more noob business concept) you need a licence to view your own old layout files.
A paid license has always been required in order to have LayOut. This was the case from the moment Google released the first version of LayOut and not a change made by Trimble. It has always been part of the SketchUp Pro package since it's initial release. Your profile says you have SketchUp Make. The free versions of SketchUp for desktop include a 30-day pro trial. That would allow you to try out LayOut, too. At the end of the trial period you won't have access to LayOut unless you opted to upgrade to Pro. So of course you would lose access to any LayOut files you might have saved during the trial if you choose to just let the trial expire and go on using the free version. You also had a bunch of other Pro features during the trial period and those were also turned off with the end of the Pro trial.
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One option is to contact a SketchUp reseller in your region who may run discounts from time to time. Or they offer a bundle of various design related apps so you get more bang for your buck. Let them know your in the market and sign up for their mailing list so you don't miss offers
Another option to explore is local funding for new business startups. If you consider the initial outlay you will have to get something up and running with things like hardware, software, equipment etc there is likely a local support that will at least match your investment.
A less pocket beating approach would be to ask someone with a SketchUp version that can open the files to save them in a version you can open.
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Thanks so much Rich, will do.
Dave, had layout created over multiple years, thus must have been available longer than 30d.
Many years ago replaced computer, then problems occured (not only with sketchup).Doesn't matter, ultimately I will buy the new "commercial licence" despite not being commercially using it.
I was of course hoping that one day a trimble staff reads this hence why my words have deeper meaning (still hope and expect them to do that). Here is the best place to be if they want to make new generations loyal and sell more.
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@letssee said:
Dave, had layout created over multiple years, thus must have been available longer than 30d.
Yes. LayOut has been available for longer than 30 days. The first version was released in 2008. Sometime shortly after Google purchased SketchUp in March of 2006 they changed the trial period from 8 hours to 30 days and in January 2007 began offering a free version of SketchUp. That free version started with a 30-day trial of pro with all of the available features of SketchUp Pro. When LayOut was introduced it was included as part of the Pro trial and that continued up until the point at which they stop offering SketchUp 2017 Make about two years ago.
@letssee said:
Many years ago replaced computer, then problems occured (not only with sketchup).
What problem? In any case, if you installed SketchUp Make on a new computer you would have started with another 30-day trial period of Pro and thus you would have had access to LayOut during that time.
@letssee said:
Doesn't matter, ultimately I will buy the new "commercial licence" despite not being commercially using it.
That's fine. The subscription will give you SketchUp Pro, LayOut, SketchUp Go (web-based), SketchUp for iPad and a bunch of other options.
@letssee said:
I was of course hoping that one day a trimble staff reads this hence why my words have deeper meaning (still hope and expect them to do that). Here is the best place to be if they want to make new generations loyal and sell more.
Someone from the SketchUp team will likely see this thread. I expect at this point the bean counters and marketing people have run the numbers enough to have a good idea of what will actually work to pay the bills and keep the shareholders happy.
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