Sketchauction plugin manager folder pointing problem

alexpacio2013 · 7 Dec 2022, 11:15

In practice I have a problem with SketchUcation manager I would like to manage the Plugins by enabling and disabling them from the plugin manager panel but as you can see from the images only these 3 plugins come out in practice above a folder comes out which is not the real SketchUp plugin folder and not i know how to change it if it is possible to change it to have all plugins list How can i change this folder

Rich O Brien · 7 Dec 2022, 12:20

Did you click the dropdown?

Some plugins/extensions will install outside the normal plugin path if that's needed.

Also be aware that our Extensions Manager will usually capture those extensions that have installed elements in the ProgramData root.

First use the Extension Manager to disable extensions and reload SketchUp. Then go to the Plugins Manager and disable anything else.

Why is there 2 managers? Because SketchUp moves the goal posts every couple of years and legacy tools that work perfectly fine are now considered distant cousins.

alexpacio2013 · 7 Dec 2022, 12:47

@rich o brien said:

Did you click the dropdown?

Some plugins/extensions will install outside the normal plugin path if that's needed.

Also be aware that our Extensions Manager will usually capture those extensions that have installed elements in the ProgramData root.

First use the Extension Manager to disable extensions and reload SketchUp. Then go to the Plugins Manager and disable anything else.

Why is there 2 managers? Because SketchUp moves the goal posts every couple of years and legacy tools that work perfectly fine are now considered distant cousins.

Yes I tried to click in the drop down menu But I don't have any other folders I only have the one for the image Basically my SketchUp plugins folder isn't listed
C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\SketchUp\SketchUp 2022\SketchUp\Plugins

Rich O Brien · 7 Dec 2022, 13:57

If you go to Extensions > Sketchucation > Open Plugins Folder... what opens?

Or if you install a tool via our Extension Store what dialog pops up to pick install location?

alexpacio2013 · 7 Dec 2022, 14:27

[quote="Rich O Brien"]If you go to Extensions > Sketchucation > Open Plugins Folder... what opens?

Or if you install a tool via our Extension Store what dialog pops up to pick install location?

it doesn't ask me to choose the path, it automatically installs plugins on the real sketchup plugin
C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\SketchUp\SketchUp 2022\SketchUp\Plugins but it is correctly listed in the sketchauction plugins manager. instead all the plugins installed by the sketchup extension manager are not listed in the Plugins manager panel

alexpacio2013 · 7 Dec 2022, 14:33

@alexpacio2013 said:

@rich o brien said:

If you go to Extensions > Sketchucation > Open Plugins Folder... what opens?

Or if you install a tool via our Extension Store what dialog pops up to pick install location?

it doesn't ask me to choose the path, it automatically installs plugins on the real sketchup plugin
C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\SketchUp\SketchUp 2022\SketchUp\Plugins but it is correctly listed in the sketchauction plugins manager. instead all the plugins installed by the sketchup extension manager are not listed in the Plugins manager panel

In practice How can I reach the other folders there is a way to also insert the real SketchUp folder?
C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\SketchUp\SketchUp 2022\SketchUp\Plugins

Rich O Brien · 7 Dec 2022, 14:35

What version of SketchUp are we talking about here? Your profile says pre-2013

alexpacio2013 · 7 Dec 2022, 14:48

@rich o brien said:

What version of SketchUp are we talking about here? Your profile says pre-2013

Sketchup 2022
Is there any way to manually insert real path into SketchUp plugin

Rich O Brien · 7 Dec 2022, 15:09

No, it detects your install path. At least it does for the vast majority.

Can you try repairing you SU install? Download the .exe and use Run as Admin to install it with correct permissions to read/write. Pick Repair when you run the installer

alexpacio2013 · 7 Dec 2022, 15:29

@rich o brien said:

No, it detects your install path. At least it does for the vast majority.

Can you try repairing you SU install? Download the .exe and use Run as Admin to install it with correct permissions to read/write. Pick Repair when you run the installer

I've already tried this operation Manu puppy maybe the problem arose after I upgraded Windows 10 to Windows 11 and in any case everything works perfectly sketchup except Sketchauction.

Rich O Brien · 7 Dec 2022, 16:27

TIG may know a way or have a version that can help. I'm outta ideas on why this is happening...

TIG · 7 Dec 2022, 17:22

If SketchUp is installed properly [i.e. Installer exe used Run as admin, or a Repair has been done] then the default Plugins folder path is set up automatically.
Our toolset uses the path to that as the default.
Any other paths [other than the Tools folder and Ruby folders, are deduced from your SketchUp settings...

To check what SketchUp is doing please open SketchUp and open the Ruby Console [from Extensions > Developer...].
Type [or copy/paste] the following + enter and report the results...
Sketchup.find_support_file("Plugins")
Again I get "C:/Users/TIG/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2022/SketchUp/Plugins"
Then try...
SCF::PLUGINS
From our settings again I get... "C:/Users/TIG/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2022/SketchUp/Plugins"
To see all possible Ruby path options set up within SketchUp, please try this...
$LOAD_PATH
I get...
["C:/Program Files/SketchUp/SketchUp 2022/Tools/RubyStdLib",
"C:/Program Files/SketchUp/SketchUp 2022/Tools/RubyStdLib/platform_specific",
"C:/Program Files/SketchUp/SketchUp 2022/Tools",
"C:/Users/TIG/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2022/SketchUp/Plugins"]
If I has something installed, like a render-app, that went into the ProgramData folder, then that folder would also be included automatically as...
"C:/ProgramData/SketchUp/SketchUp 2022/SketchUp/Plugins"

alexpacio2013 · 7 Dec 2022, 18:32

@tig said:

If SketchUp is installed properly [i.e. Installer exe used Run as admin, or a Repair has been done] then the default Plugins folder path is set up automatically.
Our toolset uses the path to that as the default.
Any other paths [other than the Tools folder and Ruby folders, are deduced from your SketchUp settings...

To check what SketchUp is doing please open SketchUp and open the Ruby Console [from Extensions > Developer...].
Type [or copy/paste] the following + enter and report the results...
Sketchup.find_support_file("Plugins")
Again I get "C:/Users/TIG/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2022/SketchUp/Plugins"
Then try...
SCF::PLUGINS
From our settings again I get... "C:/Users/TIG/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2022/SketchUp/Plugins"
To see all possible Ruby path options set up within SketchUp, please try this...
$LOAD_PATH
I get...
["C:/Program Files/SketchUp/SketchUp 2022/Tools/RubyStdLib",
"C:/Program Files/SketchUp/SketchUp 2022/Tools/RubyStdLib/platform_specific",
"C:/Program Files/SketchUp/SketchUp 2022/Tools",
"C:/Users/TIG/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2022/SketchUp/Plugins"]
If I has something installed, like a render-app, that went into the ProgramData folder, then that folder would also be included automatically as...
"C:/ProgramData/SketchUp/SketchUp 2022/SketchUp/Plugins"

This is my SketchUp's answer

TIG · 7 Dec 2022, 18:52

So your results from the Ruby Console look OK.

When you use the ExtensionStore³ because there's more than on possible installation destination you will get a dialog offering a choice from a dropdown list.
The default is your standard Plugins folder.
You might need to resize that dialog to see the options/buttons...

When you use the Plugins Manager the topmost list drop-down will include the possible destinations, again defaulting to the standard Plugins folder...

When using these tools what are you seeing ?

alexpacio2013 · 7 Dec 2022, 20:17

@tig said:

So your results from the Ruby Console look OK.

When you use the ExtensionStore³ because there's more than on possible installation destination you will get a dialog offering a choice from a dropdown list.
The default is your standard Plugins folder.
You might need to resize that dialog to see the options/buttons...

When you use the Plugins Manager the topmost list drop-down will include the possible destinations, again defaulting to the standard Plugins folder...

When using these tools what are you seeing ?

There is no other option in the curtain. It's not a window size issue. Maybe it's best that I give up

TIG · 7 Dec 2022, 22:57

If you click on the 'down-arrow' at the right-hand end in the top you should get a list including the proper Plugins folder...
Doesn't this happen ?
You already demonstrated that the SCF:PLUGINS folder path is set properly...
This is weird...