Warehouse closing ?

sketch3d.de · 8 Jul 2020, 13:11

This will affect people who keep their classic license and don't go the subs way end of this year.

Pro users won't be affected.

Dave R · 8 Jul 2020, 16:35

The fact is, the change is being made to try to stop people who are downloading massive numbers of models from the 3D Warehouse and selling them on their own sites which is a violation of the terms of use. This won't affect users with Pro or Shop licenses. It won't affect pro users with Classic licenses. And what SketchUp user really needs to download more than 100 models a day from the 3D Warehouse? Or 1000 a month?

These aggragators stealing content off the 3D Warehouse to sell is the main reason I don't make any of my SketchUp models available there. The ones I have uploaded to the Warehouse are locked so no one else can download them.

Dave R · 8 Jul 2020, 18:40

See this post on the SketchUp Community Forum.

Download Limits on 3D Warehouse

We would like to help folks understand why we implemented download limits on 3D Warehouse. A small number of 3D Warehouse users have been downloading very large numbers of models, thousands in a day, every day. This ac…

SketchUp Community (forums.sketchup.com)

Glenn at home · 8 Jul 2020, 19:39

@dave r said:

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These aggragators stealing content off the 3D Warehouse to sell is the main reason I don't make any of my SketchUp models available there. The ones I have uploaded to the Warehouse are locked so no one else can download them.

THIS! ^^^^^^^

dtrarch · 9 Jul 2020, 01:05

Just a heads up.

Reminds me of the last scene in Terminator 1.
The little Mexican kid says "la tormenta"
and Sara Connor replies "I know"
Did the Terminator ever get better?
A metaphoric reference and well meant.

dtrarch

andybot · 9 Jul 2020, 17:49

Thanks for explanation Dave R, I was wondering about that when I saw the note about the new limits.

Khai · 10 Jul 2020, 14:29

@dave r said:

The fact is, the change is being made to try to stop people who are downloading massive numbers of models from the 3D Warehouse and selling them on their own sites which is a violation of the terms of use. This won't affect users with Pro or Shop licenses. It won't affect pro users with Classic licenses. And what SketchUp user really needs to download more than 100 models a day from the 3D Warehouse? Or 1000 a month?

These aggragators stealing content off the 3D Warehouse to sell is the main reason I don't make any of my SketchUp models available there. The ones I have uploaded to the Warehouse are locked so no one else can download them.

and it won't stop them downloading en masse.

see, to access the warehouse, all you need is an email address..... so. they download the limit, log out, login next email address, download. rinse. repeat.

slowed them down for about... 1 minute. tops.

Dave R · 10 Jul 2020, 14:37

Agreed. So do you just go ahead and put your content out there and just expect these people are going to take your work and sell it for their own profit? I don't and won't. I give away enough of my time teaching other people how to use SketchUp but I don't give away my models.

I suppose Trimble could make it so the only way to access the 3D Warehouse is through SketchUp. And then maybe create some sort of separation between what is available to the free users and what is available to the pro or shop users.

Khai · 10 Jul 2020, 14:45

"Agreed. So do you just go ahead and put your content out there and just expect these people are going to take your work and sell it for their own profit? "

History Lesson Begins

I have been there. I sold content for Poser (made in trueSpace 4, before I started using Sketchup) for about 4 years, 2003-2007 over on Renderosity under the name Khai in partnership with Sixus1.

and I saw, roughly, 5 grand of lost sales due to piracy on the sites of my models. now I could have chased them down.. and spent MORE than 5 grand doing it.

so what did I do? I moved on and made the next model. Pirates are gonna Pirate.

I eventually dropped out of the poser market (other reasons, not piracy) and got into modeling for myself again.

History Lesson over

point? it happens. you can try and stay ahead of it, and it'll just take a few minutes longer to do...

but the one thing I am getting from you dave is the feeling you wish I'd just shut up.

is there a problem here? I'm not setting out to annoy you, and I am pointing out a valid point but seriously, I'm getting the feeling you'd rather I leave.

Dave R · 10 Jul 2020, 14:50

@khai said:

do...

but the one thing I am getting from you dave is the feeling you wish I'd just shut up.

is there a problem here? I'm not setting out to annoy you, and I am pointing out a valid point but seriously, I'm getting the feeling you'd rather I leave.

I don't know how you got that impression because it couldn't be farther from the truth.

I recognize that your point about piracy is valid. I agree with you. On the other hand, the thing Trimble is doing by charging for huge quantity downloads is an attempt to at least slow that down. It won't affect anyone who is actually using SketchUp either professionally or as their hobby.