Anyone Upgrading to 2020?

kaas · 31 Jan 2020, 12:57

I appreciate the tip, but I'm not sure what you mean by "updating my classic license". I don't use the Pro version, just the make. So do I need to do something to ensure that I can continue to use 2015, or am I in danger of it becoming unusable at some point?

If you're using Make, maybe switch to the last version 2017? At least download it (and keep the 2015 installer safe for future use if you want to keep using that one).

Trimble won't deactivate old Makes but in theory a new future Windows version could potentially not be compatible with the 'old' 2015 SU. This is theory though - SU8 still can be installed fine if I'm not mistaken. Maybe when we're switching to 128 bit systems? (does that exist anyway?)

Dave R · 31 Jan 2020, 13:32

kaas has a good point. For those using Make who insist on sticking with a desktop client version of SketchUp, upgrading to 2017 Make is a good idea.

Older versions do run. I have 3.1 running on my Windows 10 machine without any problem.

The main issue with older versions has to do with connectivity to resources like the 3D Warehouse and Extension Warehouse. Due to changes in support from operating systems such as Windows support for I.E. and security changes, the warehouses no longer support SU2016 or earlier. Of course the Google versions of SketchUp haven't been supported by the Warehouse for even longer because they point to a non-existent location.

For those using 2016 and earlier, you can download the Collada files from the 3D Warehouse via your browser and then install the .dae.

Glenn at home · 31 Jan 2020, 16:13

@kaas said:

If you're using Make, maybe switch to the last version 2017? At least download it (and keep the 2015 installer safe for future use if you want to keep using that one).

Trimble won't deactivate old Makes but in theory a new future Windows version could potentially not be compatible with the 'old' 2015 SU. This is theory though - SU8 still can be installed fine if I'm not mistaken. Maybe when we're switching to 128 bit systems? (does that exist anyway?)

Have we not already seen this with the ARM based Windows 10 Surface machines?

zooen · 1 Feb 2020, 16:43

@ken said:

I have the program Toolbars from Jim Foltz. The last two Sketchup updates, somehow I got it to work, however, with this version of Sketchup I haven't been able to get it to work.

Below is an image of the four toolbars I created. I really would like someone to show or tell me how to get these options again.

I think but not sure that Jim hasn't done any coding for some time. Making my own set of commands was very helpful.

Hi, it works for me, I have been using it for several years. I'm just copying and pasting from one version to another. I had worries

sorry for english, i am a diehard gaulois!

Zooen

CalypsoArt · 1 Feb 2020, 17:40

I abandoned attempts to use Layout in 2016. Has it since been changed to offer automatic dimension updates when the referenced model is edited? That would be the only change that would make it viable for me.

Dave R · 1 Feb 2020, 18:38

LayOut dimensions have been linked to the model since 2018.

DentalEZ · 4 Feb 2020, 14:01

@unknownuser said:

We need feedback...

Update,
it still works in 2020 and we can live with it.
It would be nice if it was updated to the 2020 name change. This is a old program called "Make Named Group" by Thomthom. I don't know if there is anything similar out there in the SKU plugin world. But I find it's a quick way to move/Tag and name objects in one operation.

Dave R · 4 Feb 2020, 14:15

The author might change the label in the UI for their extensions or you could poke around in it and do it yourself. Or you could decide it doesn't make any difference and ignore it.

DentalEZ · 4 Feb 2020, 15:20

We will live with it,

If i were to try and change anything in the program I'd have to do it on my own time, for fun. I am not skilled in that area presently and I do have that kind of time right now to devote to it.

fionmacool · 27 Feb 2020, 19:24

I like the 2020 update.

Probably the best feature is Layout's ability to toggle groups on and off in a window.
Second best is the new move groups features where the nodes are visible and the object becomes temporarily transparent etc.
I have a page showing how that works here:

Page not found

SketchUp Expert (viewsion.ie)

Third best is the ability to freeze the windows and other objects in LayOut with a context menu selection.
Fourth is visibility of Section cuts in Outliner (SketchUp)
Fifth is the hidden objects ghost visibility also using Outliner.

That's my take. I think these are good new features overall.

I still dearly want two new features:

SketchUp: Why on earth is there still no mirror function??
LayOut: Graphic Component objects.

CalypsoArt · 2 Mar 2020, 17:40

@fionmacool said:

SketchUp: Why on earth is there still no mirror function??

If not for the Mirror plugin I'd of abandoned SU years ago.

Box · 3 Mar 2020, 02:47

In my case I abandoned the mirror plugin years ago.

Dave R · 3 Mar 2020, 03:25

I've never found a need for the Mirror plugin although it is installed. Flip Along does what I need more quickly, anyway.

Pixero · 5 Mar 2020, 14:37

Is it possible to have the flip along command flip a copy and not the original?

Dave R · 5 Mar 2020, 14:45

Yes. That's how I usually use it. I have keyboard shortcuts set up for the ones I use so it's quick easy to flip a component or a selection set. (I don't use groups so haven't bothered to make keyboard shortcuts for flipping along group axes.

Click on the picture.

fionmacool · 5 Mar 2020, 14:49

@pixero said:

Is it possible to have the flip along command flip a copy and not the original?

I've started to do this:

[]Group the element I want to mirror.
[]CRTL-C
[]Paste in Place (I have a shorcut key set up for this which is "Z")
[]Flip along (red or green)
[*]Move into place.

bmcisaac · 5 Mar 2020, 14:58

I haven't had the courage to look too close for a few years (worried how different it would be)....I have a running copy of 2016-pro. It allows me to do some file exporting to a rendering engine I use. I retired some time ago from any serious modeling so this is all play but I keep busy with it. Lumion keeps me signed on to a pro version I received years ago. They have a lot of integrity and it seems that money is not their absolute primary focus. They continue to honor the license agreement we made.

I decided to go have a look around at the state of Sketchup things. I was here just as Trimble took over...seems like last century.
What I have found is Sketchup has been basically gutted...there is a long list starting with no mesh from GE......etc...etc....yes I know this is old news.

It was also a shock to see what it would cost a person (a bit shameful) to get it all back....lol....not a chance for an old retiree.

So will I update to 2020.......ROFL!

david_h · 4 Sept 2020, 18:45

So... .it begins.

I was informed that as of 9/15/2020, my Lisence of 2019 will no longer be valid, so it's off to 2020 I go. (Im still dithering between learning REVIT or Blender! )

Anyway, so 2020 is loading as we speak.

Query: All of my millions of plugins (of which I use about 12) are up to date for 2019. Do I havce to thru the whole tedious to-do of upgrading them or will they just glide right into function for Version 2020?

Dave R · 4 Sept 2020, 19:03

@david_h said:

So... .it begins.

I was informed that as of 9/15/2020, my Lisence of 2019 will no longer be valid,

I think you misunderstood what you were told about your license. The 2019 license won't stop being valid for SketchUp 2019. It will continue to work for that version. As of the beginning of November you won't be able to purchase a Classic SketchUp license for SketchUp 2020 or for future versions. And you won't be able to renew your Maintenance and Support like you used to.

There was another e-mail sent out recently offering those who have current Maintenance and Support accounts a discount on the first twelve months of the Subscription license. If you want to stick with SU2019 instead of updating to SU2020, you can certainly do that.

@david_h said:

Query: All of my millions of plugins (of which I use about 12) are up to date for 2019. Do I havce to thru the whole tedious to-do of upgrading them or will they just glide right into function for Version 2020?

Extensions and plugins are installed for the version so SU2020 won't have your extensions installed. The best practice is to install them fresh. If you use the Sketchucation Extension Store to install extensions from here, you can let it automatically install the latest versions from your bundle.

If you know that your extensions are up to date, you could copy them from SU2019 to SU2020. There may be some that still need to updated and there are some extensions out there that have to be installed, not just copied and pasted. You could cross that bridge when/if you get there.

Your profile doesn't indicate which operating system you are using. If you are using Windows, make certain you install SU2020 correctly. That is, right click on the downloaded installer and choose Run as administrator. If I'm too late and you've installed it already, find the installer again, right click on it and choose Run as administrator and then choose Repair.

david_h · 4 Sept 2020, 19:12

thanks Dave. If I can, I'll keep using 19 but I will need to reinstall 2020 as Administrator.

D

I was so happy with Version 7.