SketchUp 2019 release

klip53 · 14 Feb 2019, 06:41

@rv1974 said:

Example.. I forced (via task manager) a file crash. On reopening v2019 asked whether I'd like to open an autosaved version which didpreserved latest changes (similarly to PS). But untill now I haven't seen a single Autosave file in the project folder.
Maybe v19 creates them in Temp?
@Juju: bot options are V-ed

Auto-save (aka, recovered) files are no longer saved in the same folder as the original SketchUp model; in SketchUp 2019 they are stored here:

C:\Users\YourUserName\AppData\Local\Temp\SKETCHUP\RecoveredFiles

thanks, I will make a shortcut to that location

sketch3d.de · 14 Feb 2019, 10:30

@markchandler said:

C;\Users\YourUserName\AppData\Local\Temp\SKETCHUP\RecoveredFiles

why not bring it to "Window > Preferences > Files"?

rv1974 · 14 Feb 2019, 10:50

Sketchup devs are very lucky Trimble is not a Japaneese company. After all this v2019 storm in official forum they would be obliged to commit collective seppuku

A Japanese ice cream maker deeply apologizes for raising prices by 9 cents

An apology for a price hike to melt your heart.

Quartz (qz.com)

numerobis · 14 Feb 2019, 13:16

@solo said:

Like they do with every lackluster release, they wait it out, people forget fast. Frankly, I do not think they give a shit what we think, they just do not like us expressing our thoughts on their forum it seems.

Yes, business as usual. Like all the other years without real improvements. They just don't care...

But it looks like Trimble has started an offensive to counter all the negative "open letters" in their forum. This really sounds to me like they wrote it themselves... and with a fresh account registered a few days ago.
https://forums.sketchup.com/t/open-letter/88172
And even if this is a real post, i think it's very sad, since it must be someone who seems to have completely lost reality... (or discovered SU just very recently and doesn't know what's going on elsewhere in the 3D-world)

rv1974 · 14 Feb 2019, 13:58

@numerobis said:

@solo said:

https://forums.sketchup.com/t/open-letter/88172
And even if this is a real post..

I don't think he's the real user. Too much common empty dithyrambs.
I wouldn't be surprised if it comes from the same PR person that wrote about giant coffe consumption. What irritates even more are those 'Sketchup sages' with fairy tales about "no need for new features because people have diffrent needs".

solo · 14 Feb 2019, 14:06

That looks fake to me too, in fact I commented about it in another thread where he advertised his open thread: https://forums.sketchup.com/t/an-open-letter-to-trimble/87510/21?u=solo

numerobis · 14 Feb 2019, 14:28

@rv1974 said:

What irritates even more are those 'Sketchup sages' with fairy tales about "no need for new features because people have diffrent needs".

Yes, i noticed that too.

Paul Russam · 14 Feb 2019, 16:26

There are very simple reasons that this profile has only been active for a week.

Profile ... what an odd term for a user account .... It sounds to me more like the term a forum admin might use

Derek Edison · 14 Feb 2019, 22:20

@numerobis said:

@rv1974 said:

What irritates even more are those 'Sketchup sages' with fairy tales about "no need for new features because people have diffrent needs".

Yes, i noticed that too.

I suspect they are just protecting their mealticket. They don't want Trimble to poach their existing paid extensions or develop new features so they have more opportunity to develop more.

kaas · 15 Feb 2019, 06:18

I wondered a few times before v19 launched: do sages get any compensation?

Some of them are posting very fast and a lot on the official pages, really clear answers to questions.

If they aren't compensated in any way: hats off! You're doing the work a payed community manager normally would do I think.
If they are: shouldn't that be public in some way?

kaas · 15 Feb 2019, 11:36

@box said:

Sages are not paid, we choose to do it. In the same way, Top Sketchucators are also not paid.

Good to know. Especially Big hats off for all the effort you and the other sages do in helping people

pbacot · 15 Feb 2019, 17:40

Yeah. Let's not get paranoid about people, because we're disappointed in something totally unrelated. There's many good people on the SketchUp team (paid or otherwise). I can attest, very helpful too.

Box · 16 Feb 2019, 03:54

Sages are not paid, we choose to do it. In the same way, Top Sketchucators are also not paid.

Edit: We are given the title of sage because we answer questions, we don't answer questions because we are sages.

slbaumgartner · 16 Feb 2019, 14:47

I must add that since SketchUp sages are independent volunteers, we don't speak for Trimble. We speak our own minds and do not even always agree with Trimble or each other. Our opinions are our own and are just as valid (or not) as anyone else's.

WEB · 16 Feb 2019, 20:43

I was wondering: with all the dissatisfaction expressed here and elsewhere over SketchUp’s recent past performance and their apparent direction for the future, how many of you are seriously considering transitioning to different software?

As for me, after I took a quick look at several options, I decided to explore FormZ. The free version will do nicely while I am getting the feel of the program. Later? We’ll see. It doesn't necessarily mean that I am dropping SU.

After I made my own decision, an often-reliable source told me that architecture students in the U.S. have mostly abandoned SketchUp in favor of FormZ. If true, that does not bode well for SU’s future.

alpro · 18 Feb 2019, 02:31

@web said:

I was wondering: with all the dissatisfaction expressed here and elsewhere over SketchUp’s recent past performance and their apparent direction for the future, how many of you are seriously considering transitioning to different software?

Yes I am, I've been mostly happy with SU except for the crap Digital Globe imagery and terrain, really pissed me off and this latest release was the final straw. I just can't get my head around Blender so it's going to be Cinema 4D or Rhino. Cinema 4D is more than I wanted to spend but have some familiarity with it as I've done some lite modeling in it with the version that comes with After Effects. Rhino is only a few dollars more than a SU license and maintenance. Watched a few youtube videos on modeling and drafting architectural. Both work with Enscape and Thea Render. Even though my maintenance is current I haven't even downloaded SU 2019.

greghile · 18 Feb 2019, 02:52

Back in the day, I would jump into everything technical. My first computer was a Xerox dual floppy disk drive. Can't tell you how many hours were spent trying to squeeze a little more usable RAM in that gap between 640kb and 1mb. Had no problem jumping from MultiMate to WordPerfect to Microsoft Word. Nowadays, I'm just too old for this shit. I've played with Blender over the years and now a bit of Fusion 360, but my main go-to remains and, unless something REALLY drastic happens, will remain SU.

pbacot · 18 Feb 2019, 04:04

@greghile said:

Back in the day, I would jump into everything technical. My first computer was a Xerox dual floppy disk drive. Can't tell you how many hours were spent trying to squeeze a little more usable RAM in that gap between 640kb and 1mb. Had no problem jumping from MultiMate to WordPerfect to Microsoft Word. Nowadays, I'm just too old for this shit. I've played with Blender over the years and now a bit of Fusion 360, but my main go-to remains and, unless something REALLY drastic happens, will remain SU.

My problem, something really drastic happens when I use SketchUp

Derek Edison · 18 Feb 2019, 13:09

@web said:

I was wondering: with all the dissatisfaction expressed here and elsewhere over SketchUp’s recent past performance and their apparent direction for the future, how many of you are seriously considering transitioning to different software?

We'll ride out the perpetual licensing as long as we can but I'll start looking at alternatives soon so I have a plan before it goes subscription only. We'll make the call then.

function · 19 Feb 2019, 16:41

when do you think they will end classic / perpetual licensing?