SketchUp 2019 release

Glenn at home · 5 Feb 2019, 20:39

Like i said before, it would be great, if someone could develop the key features of SU (inferencing, push-pull, double click to open instance/group,...) as add-on for Blender or Max.

Someone is working on something for Unity. It would be cool if they would adopt it to Blender 3D.

https://forum.unity.com/threads/blueprintz-simple-smart-fun-modeling-extension.448371/

glitchdesign · 5 Feb 2019, 20:43

This is certainly more disappointing then i could have imagined.

Having waded through the sales patter on the page:

@unknownuser said:

Best of all: we’re using this opportunity to challenge ourselves to earn your business every single day by constantly improving the tools you need and love throughout each year.

@unknownuser said:

This shift in our business will keep us accountable to retain your business, by releasing new features as often as possible. We are proud to take on this challenge and move our process from an annual update cycle

These statements personally offend me.
Surely a subscription license, where you are unable to continue using the software if you don't renew every year, is the exact opposite of keeping them accountable to retain our business?

Derek Edison · 5 Feb 2019, 20:48

@applemango85 said:

I need to read the sketchup site but I guess that means if you get a 1 year m&s you don’t get to keep version 2019 (or other) once it runs out?

Click through the classic license link. Still $120 annually to keep your perpetual licenses. (for now)
They are definitely following what Adobe and AutoDesk have done. As a company that has transitioned through both, my advice is to hang on to those perpetual licenses as long as you can!

Edit: By that I mean pay the M&S every year. Don't let it lapse or your TCO goes up by 2.5x

numerobis · 5 Feb 2019, 20:56

@glitchdesign said:

These statements personally offend me.

Yes, this really sounds like mockery to me when i look at the "improvements" of the past years.

Tony.3ds · 5 Feb 2019, 20:57

@numerobis said:

403 Forbidden

(blog.sketchup.com)

So the new "features" for this year are a subscription based model, a bundle with Sefaira, dashed lines and Marc? Can this be true? Really?!?

OMG !

I can't believe any company with a soft like Sketchup can do this shit !!
After soooooo many time.

Glenn at home · 5 Feb 2019, 21:18

@numerobis said:

edit: The thread is from January 2017. Do you know if this is still in development?

Last update on Twitter was from June. I just sent a message to them to see if they are still actively working on this.

numerobis · 5 Feb 2019, 21:19

@glenn at home said:

Someone is working on something for Unity. It would be cool if they would adopt it to Blender 3D.
https://forum.unity.com/threads/blueprintz-simple-smart-fun-modeling-extension.448371/

This looks very promising. Thanks for the link.
The push-pull is already better than in SU. Hopefully someone can adopt it incl. a good numeric input and the other good features of SU.

edit: The thread is from January 2017. Do you know if this is still in development?

edit 2: I've found something... at least till July 2018 he was still posting updates

https://twitter.com/Blueprint_Z

nice progress...

applemango85 · 5 Feb 2019, 21:19

I am saddened by this.

I’ve been using sketchup for about 14 years and it was the modelling software for everyone. To the extent that it took a while for some to take it seriously as a professional design tool.

Adobe and auto desk, etc were expensive to start off with so a subscription license was understandable to an extent.

However this decision really alienates the freelancers and small businesses who can’t afford to go subscription, who over the years helped sketch up to grow and become the widely used tool it is today.

I’m still waiting to hear more info on classic and a comparison of that and pro and studio. But right now I’m not a happy bunny (excuse the term)

pbacot · 5 Feb 2019, 21:20

Over time, much as I like some software, I've come to realize that if I don't like how it's done (or NOT done), I can just go start my own software business. So there.

numerobis · 5 Feb 2019, 21:22

@glenn at home said:

Last update on Twitter was from June. I just sent a message to them to see if they are still actively working on this.

Thanks! I just found it

andybot · 5 Feb 2019, 21:47

Amazing. Worst fears confirmed.

Dave R · 5 Feb 2019, 22:16

@andybot said:

Amazing. Worst fears confirmed.

What's that?

They've fixed a mess of bugs and some issues that people have been complaining about , they added some new features that people wanted like dashed lines in SketchUp, they've made SketchUp Pro less expensive to get started in with their subscription option which also gives the user access to SketchUp Shop, an unlimited Trimble Connect storage account and other features. And for those who aren't interested in having access to SketchUp Shop and the other add-ons, they can continue with their Classic license as they've always done.

ken · 5 Feb 2019, 22:46

I have 2018, with the maintenance license still in effect. I have downloaded 2019. It requests a license and an authorization code. Before I would copy the license from the previous version. This time 2019 says it is not a valid license.

So do I to buy another 2019 license or am I doing something wrong. I just want the classic, not interested in the $600 program.

So help if you can.

Thank you in advance

Ken

So DaveR do you remember when the bowlers came into style?

pbacot · 5 Feb 2019, 23:09

Ken,

Maybe this?

@unknownuser said:

Tip: If you’re active in the upgrade, maintenance, and support plan, you receive an email with new license information after a new version of SketchUp Pro is released. Download and install the new version of SketchUp Pro, authorize the license, and begin using the new version of SketchUp. After you authorize the new version, your old SketchUp license expires after 60 days.

Attention Required! | Cloudflare

(help.sketchup.com)

Pixero · 5 Feb 2019, 23:10

I think it’s what I expected.
Nothing about speed and stability for high poly models and faster import.
Nothing very impressive but at least two things are good.

@unknownuser said:

DWG Import
In SketchUp you now have the ability to Import and Export Materials improving interoperability for CAD and BIM workflows

This one if it works as I hope will be of big use to me since much is modeled in Revit at work.
Getting materials in to Sketchup will save me time.

@unknownuser said:

Fixed an issue where SketchUp would take focus during start up preventing work in other apps.

A good and wanted fix.
Now I can do something productive instead of looking at Sketchup loading.

utiler · 5 Feb 2019, 23:15

SketchUp 2019 Release:

403 Forbidden

(blog.sketchup.com)

pbacot · 5 Feb 2019, 23:42

The above referenced blog says they've made SketchUp "faster".

ntxdave · 5 Feb 2019, 23:58

@pbacot said:

Ken,

Maybe this?

@unknownuser said:

Tip: If you’re active in the upgrade, maintenance, and support plan, you receive an email with new license information after a new version of SketchUp Pro is released. Download and install the new version of SketchUp Pro, authorize the license, and begin using the new version of SketchUp. After you authorize the new version, your old SketchUp license expires after 60 days.

Attention Required! | Cloudflare

(help.sketchup.com)

I have the active upgrade, maintenance and support plan. I have had it for several years When I install the new version each year, the old version is still there and still works. It does not expire after the 60 days (or at least it never has for me).

Looks like I can continue on the same path with the Classic plan.

function · 6 Feb 2019, 00:16

dashed lines and some other stuff

ntxdave · 6 Feb 2019, 00:25

Do not have it yet, but it appears that the dashed lines works in a way that all the sages tell us not to do. You can only use dashed lines in conjunction with a layer (according to my understanding). Which means that the layer where you are going to use dashed lines must be the "active" layer. All of the advice I have seen from the sages say that you should ALWAYS draw on layer0 and then assign the object/group/component to a layer after completing the action. Again, according to what I am seeing on the SketchUp forum, you would have to draw you objects/groups/components on a layer other than layer0 in order to use dashed lines.

Hope someone can show me that I am wrong!!