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    • medeekM Offline
      medeek
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      I have been primarily focused on the imperial/US units during the development but I also realize that a lot of current users are utilizing the plugin in metric units. I am not at all familiar with construction and construction documents in metric units so I need a little help here.

      What I am talking about is the callouts for windows and doors. What is the appropriate way to show these callouts in metric units? What is common or accepted practice?

      I'm looking at an Australian floor plan right now and the first thing that jumps out at me is they call out height x width whereas in the US we call out width x height, now I am curious what other countries that are using metric are doing, specifically the UK, Norway and France.

      The Australian system seems to be the following: window sizes are rounded to the nearest decimeter and shown in meters: (ie. a 1090mm x 2230mm window is called out as a 1022. Doors on the other hand do not seem to be called out by height but only by their width in millimeters (ie. 820 for an 820mm wide door).

      If the callout systems differ dramatically between countries I suppose I can add a global setting which allows the users to switch between various callout systems (for metric units).

      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
      Medeek Engineering Inc
      design.medeek.com

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      • medeekM Offline
        medeek
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        Version 0.8.7b - 07.19.2018

        • Added a 5-Lite Circular Grille for all window types.
        • Enabled all standard grille types for oval and round windows.

        http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su170_800.jpg

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        This grille pattern was added per customer request, also note that it can be applied to any of the other rectangular window types (picture, single hung, slider).

        Lately I've been having so many smaller feature requests that it has been hard to focus on some of the big ticket items. I am doing my best not to be side tracked by these minor items and to just add them to the todo list so I can attend to them at a later date.

        The todo list is now over three pages long, so rather than shrink it has continued to grow. Honestly the amount of items I'm currently looking at is really the work of an entire team of programmers, not just a single person. So if my progress seems rather slow at times then it probably is.

        I've been trying to get some of my kids (teenagers) interested in helping out with some of the coding over their summer break but they seemed to be more inclined to spend their time playing computer/console games. I call them the Angry Birds or Pokemon Go generation. All of this technology is great but unless it is harnessed correctly it seems more detrimental than good.

        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
        Medeek Engineering Inc
        design.medeek.com

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        • medeekM Offline
          medeek
          last edited by

          I was using a metric template last night to work on updates to the metric window and door call outs, when it became painfully obvious that the metric side of the house has way more bugs than I care to admit.

          I am going to spend the rest of the day or whatever it takes to go through the entire extension with a fine tooth comb and clean up some of these (metric only) bugs. I'm finding that most of them are typos or something very simple, however I do need to get this done.

          My sincere apologies to are international (metric) customers who have had to deal with this and I appreciate your patience with me.

          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
          Medeek Engineering Inc
          design.medeek.com

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          • pilouP Offline
            pilou
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            Hope for your customers that you have several children! 😉

            In France an internal door is normally in cm (centimeter) or m (meter with 2 decimals) , thickness in mm (millimeter)
            Example : 2.04 m * 0.63 m to 0.93 m ( 0.63 - 0.73 - 0.93) by section 29 mm to 40 mm
            or
            204 cm * 63 cm to 93 cm (63-73-93) by section 29 mm to 40 mm

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            • pilouP Offline
              pilou
              last edited by

              Maybe you can put all in mm for less problem ?

              so a standard internal door 2,04 m * 93 cm * 29 mm

              will be 2040 mm * 930 mm * 29 mm

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              • medeekM Offline
                medeek
                last edited by

                Version 0.8.7c - 07.20.2018

                • Addressed a number of miscellaneous bugs related to metric templates.

                I've also utilized the Australian standard for window and door call outs when using metric templates. If someone would like to have a different call out system implemented for metric units I can do that as well, I just need specifics and what country or name to associate with that call out system.

                This is a critical bug fix release and addresses a number of bugs having to do with metric units but also affects some issues that are also with imperial/US units. I would highly recommend updating to this latest version at your earliest convenience.

                Locating windows and doors along a wall in meters should now work as intended.

                I'm am reasonably sure there are more bugs with the metric version of the plugin since I have not fully tested it in every possible scenario. If you notice anything please feel free to contact me.

                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                Medeek Engineering Inc
                design.medeek.com

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                • medeekM Offline
                  medeek
                  last edited by

                  One known issue with the latest upgrades applies to users who have previously installed the plugin. Once you upgrade to the latest version, click on the global settings and then the layers tab. This will reinitialize the layers settings for the plugin.

                  This only applies to users that are upgrading and that also have the layers option enabled in the global settings.

                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                  Medeek Engineering Inc
                  design.medeek.com

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                  • medeekM Offline
                    medeek
                    last edited by

                    I've introduced a start and end parameter for the wainscoting which allows for partial wainscoting on exterior walls:

                    http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su171_800.jpg

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                    This feature has been requested a number of times in that last month so it managed to float to the top.

                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                    design.medeek.com

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                    • medeekM Offline
                      medeek
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                      Version 0.8.7d - 07.22.2018

                      • Added a start and end parameter for exterior wainscoting, which allows for partial wainscoting of a wall panel.
                      • All window grille types extended to half glass and full glass doors (single/double).

                      http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su173_800.jpg

                      Just an FYI, I am currently working on the garage door module however I've purposely forked the code so that I can keep putting out fires and attending to minor feature requests while I spend the next few days completing this much larger module.

                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                      design.medeek.com

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                      • medeekM Offline
                        medeek
                        last edited by

                        Ext. Wainscoting is complicated. Currently all I have is Mode 1 in the logic:

                        http://design.medeek.com/resources/wallplugin/WAINSCOTING_MODES_800.jpg

                        For example in Mode 3 you may start with full height brick then drop down to a half height and then terminate all on one wall panel.

                        With the start and end offsets set to zero the result for any of the different modes would be exactly the same, they really only come into play when you begin offsetting the wainscoting from the right and/or left.

                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                        design.medeek.com

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                        • medeekM Offline
                          medeek
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                          Version 0.8.8 - 07.24.2018

                          • Added an additional "mode" parameter for exterior wainscoting, which allows for multiple configurations of partial wainscoting.

                          http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su174_800.jpg

                          http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su175_800.jpg

                          There are now four modes however there are other modes possible but I think I have spent enough time on this for now until further requests propel this to the top of the list again.

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                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                          design.medeek.com

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                          • medeekM Offline
                            medeek
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                            Version 0.8.9 - 07.25.2018

                            • Added the CMU framing mode for concrete block wall construction.

                            http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su176_800.jpg

                            http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su177_800.jpg

                            Currently the CMU mode is mostly the same as the "No Framing" mode with a few subtle differences:

                            1.) Concrete block texture is applied to vertical and horizontal faces of the wall solid to simulate a block wall.

                            2.) Round openings in the wall are cut out to follow the curve of the window or door.

                            3.) Description of the group (solid) has CMU in the text. This will be important in later releases as the estimating and engineering modules are developed and implemented.

                            As I receive further input on this new wall type I'm sure additional features will need to be added to fully bring the CMU wall framing mode up to speed.

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                            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                            Medeek Engineering Inc
                            design.medeek.com

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                            • pbacotP Offline
                              pbacot
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                              The CMU module should be interesting as there are whole new set of standards and details. Looks good! Rarely get the chance to work with this.

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                              • facerF Offline
                                facer
                                last edited by

                                CMU (Concrete Masonry Unit)
                                IMPERIAL SIZES
                                https://www.archtoolbox.com/materials-systems/

                                4" CMU
                                ACTUAL SIZE
                                D X H X L (INCHES) NOMINAL SIZE
                                D X H X L (INCHES)
                                3 5/8 x 7 5/8 x 7 5/8 4 x 8 x 8
                                3 5/8 x 7 5/8 x 15 5/8 4 x 8 x 16
                                6" CMU
                                ACTUAL SIZE
                                D X H X L (INCHES) NOMINAL SIZE
                                D X H X L (INCHES)
                                5 5/8 x 7 5/8 x 7 5/8 6 x 8 x 8
                                5 5/8 x 7 5/8 x 15 5/8 6 x 8 x 16
                                8" CMU
                                ACTUAL SIZE
                                D X H X L (INCHES) NOMINAL SIZE
                                D X H X L (INCHES)
                                7 5/8 x 7 5/8 x 7 5/8 8 x 8 x 8
                                7 5/8 x 7 5/8 x 15 5/8 8 x 8 x 16

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                                • medeekM Offline
                                  medeek
                                  last edited by

                                  I will probably need to add an additional parameter for specifying the standard block sizes. Currently the way it is setup it can only realistically show a block length of 16" nominal.

                                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                  Medeek Engineering Inc
                                  design.medeek.com

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                                  • K Offline
                                    KrisM
                                    last edited by

                                    Since you are looking at CMU sizes, in the real world the 3/8" mortar space sometimes gets fudged. For example, if I have a 100' long building, technically the block spacing would create a wall which is 3/8" short at one end. This doesn't happen. The block layers will stretch the spacing over some distance to get the last block to line up at 100'. The same thing happens at overhead doors and man doors. For example, a metal man door frame is typically 3'-4" wide, not 3'-4 3/8" wide which the accurate block spacing would require. When you are modelling everything to a theoretical accuracy, it sometimes doesn't jive with reality. Not sure how you resolve this.
                                    KrisM

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                                    • medeekM Offline
                                      medeek
                                      last edited by

                                      I'm not actually drawing the blocks just applying a material/texture to the solid wall group to make it appear that way. With this being said some of the finer points with regards to block wall construction can be safely ignored, at least for now.

                                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                                      design.medeek.com

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                                      • medeekM Offline
                                        medeek
                                        last edited by

                                        Version 0.8.9b - 07.25.2018

                                        • Stud/Wall Depth and Width parameters added to the Walls tab of the Global Settings.

                                        For CMU walls you will want to disable the standard stud sizes and then specify the wall/stud width (ie. 7.625") with the Walls tab of the global settings. Also set the framing mode to "CMU" if desired.

                                        When creating the walls one would probably turn off the advanced wall options since gypsum, sheathing, trim and cladding are usually not needed for this wall type but if required all of the options are available for this wall type as well.

                                        One additional note to add is that if you are upgrading the plugin and currently using the layers feature you will want to open up the layers tab of the global settings, so as to reinitialize the layers. I've added an additional layer option for CMU block.

                                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                                        design.medeek.com

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                                        • medeekM Offline
                                          medeek
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                                          Version 0.8.9c - 07.26.2018

                                          • Added double, triple and quad casement windows to the window draw and edit modules.
                                          • Resolved a bug in the window and door attribute library modules.

                                          http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su178_800.jpg

                                          I'm not sure if the callouts are really visible with this image but they are formatted like so:

                                          (3) 2040CSMT (for the 3 lite 6040 window)

                                          This update is per customer request.

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                                          I've also been thinking quite a bit about integration with other plugins and how I can best facilitate that plugin-to-plugin communication.

                                          My first thought is that the under the hood structure of the wall is actually fully exposed already and can be modified with any other third party plugin. Everything required to build the wall is contained within the attribute library of the wall panel group (outermost container). I will be publishing a specification which delineates each value and position within the attribute library so other plugin authors can easily obtain or set this information as required and have an exact understanding of what each parameter is.

                                          I will also be assembling an API so that another plugin author can cut holes in the walls for openings (windows and doors) and also rebuild the wall panels etc... I'm not exactly sure on all of the details yet but hopefully this will make the plugin more accessible to other plugin authors and allow for better integration.

                                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                                          design.medeek.com

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                                          • medeekM Offline
                                            medeek
                                            last edited by

                                            A couple of segmental arches and a quinto acuto and equilateral gothic arch:

                                            http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su179_800.jpg

                                            Selecting either an arch or gothic arch geometry will enable the "Window Arch Radius" parameter as shown in the edit window menu above.

                                            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                            Medeek Engineering Inc
                                            design.medeek.com

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