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    medeek
    last edited by 13 Jul 2018, 07:26

    Beyond the trim and grilles the only exterior window treatment I am missing is shutters:

    http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su152_800.jpg

    I will need to add in another set of parameters for shutters and associated menus.

    The parameters will be:

    Shutter Geometry: Single or Double
    Shutter Style: Louver, Raised Panel, Flat Panel, Board & Batten
    Shutter Material
    Shutter Thickness

    By default they will be half the width of the window opening and their height will be the same as the window opening. The shutter(s) will be offset 2" from the edge of the window to simulate the space taken up by hinges. I will not be showing hinges or any other hardware so as to keep the poly count reasonable.

    The poly count on the various styles should not be too much of a problem except for the louvered style. Not sure how to model this variant without adding a lot geometry which is going to make the model heavy.

    http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su153_800.jpg

    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
    Medeek Engineering Inc
    design.medeek.com

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      medeek
      last edited by 14 Jul 2018, 15:00

      Version 0.8.6 - 07.14.2018

      • Added shutters: Solid, Flat Panel, Raised Panel, Louver to rectangular windows.

      http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su155_800x500.jpg

      View model here:

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      Available shutter styles are:

      • Solid
      • Raised Panel
      • Flat Panel
      • Louver

      I have not yet enabled shutters for arched windows, that will be next.

      I also need to add in a board & batten shutter which is also quite popular.

      Also note that you can position the shutters on either side of the window (left or right, single shutter) or the more common double shutter configuration as shown.

      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
      Medeek Engineering Inc
      design.medeek.com

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        pilou
        last edited by 14 Jul 2018, 16:41

        With the free PBR by Samuel inside SketchUp! πŸ˜‰

        http://moiscript.weebly.com/uploads/3/9/3/8/3938813/gif-wall_orig.gif

        or more elaborated πŸ˜„

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          medeek
          last edited by 15 Jul 2018, 00:37

          Board and Batten Shutters:

          http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su156_800.jpg

          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
          Medeek Engineering Inc
          design.medeek.com

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            medeek
            last edited by 15 Jul 2018, 09:46

            Arched window with flat panel shutters:

            http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su157_800.jpg

            These arched shutters are proving to be a bit more challenging. I will need to figure out a new algorithm for board and batten shutters and louver shutters.

            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
            Medeek Engineering Inc
            design.medeek.com

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              pbacot
              last edited by 15 Jul 2018, 17:18

              @medeek said:

              Arched window with flat panel shutters:

              http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su157_800.jpg

              These arched shutters are proving to be a bit more challenging. I will need to figure out a new algorithm for board and batten shutters and louver shutters.

              No kidding. I can't even imagine!

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                medeek
                last edited by 16 Jul 2018, 00:42

                I think I've finally been bested by the complicated geometry and the limitations of SketchUp or perhaps my ability to model within SketchUp.

                Notice the raised panel shutters for an arched windows shown below:

                http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su158_800.jpg

                To create the raised panel effect I will draw the three outlines and then use the transform_entities method to move the edges into the plane. The problem is when I try this with a curved outline(s) as shown SketchUp does not know how to handle the curved planes/surfaces being created.

                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                Medeek Engineering Inc
                design.medeek.com

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                  medeek
                  last edited by 16 Jul 2018, 07:23

                  I guess I haven't been defeated after all. Using the follow-me method I was able to get it to work:

                  http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su159_800.jpg

                  I now have all the shutter types working for arched windows:

                  http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su160_800.jpg

                  View model here:

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                  3D Warehouse

                  3D Warehouse is a website of searchable, pre-made 3D models that works seamlessly with SketchUp.

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                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                  Medeek Engineering Inc
                  design.medeek.com

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                    juju
                    last edited by 16 Jul 2018, 09:07

                    @medeek said:

                    I guess I haven't been defeated after all.

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                      pilou
                      last edited by 16 Jul 2018, 09:48

                      These are in your plans ?

                      https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn;ANd9GcQV3o09rtmR7I5uwrD5SuXRSM0-vWZlKHcZaZCWE871s4zQFOuc

                      http://idata.over-blog.com/2/90/86/68/P1010937--800x600-.jpg

                      Frenchy Pilou
                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                      My Little site :)

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                        medeek
                        last edited by 16 Jul 2018, 10:49

                        @pilou said:

                        These are in your plans ?

                        https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn;ANd9GcQV3o09rtmR7I5uwrD5SuXRSM0-vWZlKHcZaZCWE871s4zQFOuc

                        http://idata.over-blog.com/2/90/86/68/P1010937--800x600-.jpg

                        I have been contemplating them, but haven't put anything in the code as of yet.

                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                        design.medeek.com

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                          medeek
                          last edited by 16 Jul 2018, 10:55

                          I"m not sure why you would want to put a single shutter to one side of a window but here it is just in case you need it:

                          http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su161_800.jpg

                          I will have to wait until tomorrow to roll out all of the shutter updates its now 4:00AM and I'm done for now.

                          I think I've now beat this horse to death, shutters are available for rectangle and arched windows in all styles and geometry (Left, Right, Double).

                          After I add more window types I will probably need to revisit the shutter module but I don't think shutters are very common for more exotic window shapes (ie. ovals, triangles, trapezoids etc...)

                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                          design.medeek.com

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                            medeek
                            last edited by 16 Jul 2018, 18:43

                            Left, Right and Double:

                            http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su162_800.jpg

                            View model here:

                            Link Preview Image
                            3D Warehouse

                            3D Warehouse is a website of searchable, pre-made 3D models that works seamlessly with SketchUp.

                            favicon

                            (3dwarehouse.sketchup.com)

                            I've also addressed a bug with arched geometry where the push-pull direction was giving unpredictable results (flipping flopping between in and out). Turns out that you need to clock your segments all in the same direction to get predictable results, which makes sense. For some reason this did not occur to me as I was coding some of these sections of the main window module.

                            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                            Medeek Engineering Inc
                            design.medeek.com

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                              medeek
                              last edited by 16 Jul 2018, 19:13

                              Version 0.8.6b - 07.16.2018

                              • Added shutters: Solid, Flat Panel, Raised Panel, Louver, Board & Batten to arched windows.
                              • Shutter geometry parameter allows for: Left, Right or Double.
                              • Fixed bug in arched window module that was causing unpredictable push-pull behavior.

                              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                              Medeek Engineering Inc
                              design.medeek.com

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                                medeek
                                last edited by 16 Jul 2018, 20:03

                                Now that I'm on a window/shutter kick I'm wondering if I should jump back into the window module and enable round and oval windows. I will probably forego the shutters on these types of windows for now and just concentrate on the basics like the window itself and the trim and casing.

                                The grilles for these type of windows (round and ovals) can get quite elaborate and could easily soak up an entire week of my time just trying to put together some of the more common variants.

                                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                Medeek Engineering Inc
                                design.medeek.com

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                                  Charlie__V
                                  last edited by 17 Jul 2018, 00:14

                                  @medeek said:

                                  Now that I'm on a window/shutter kick I'm wondering if I should jump back into the window module and enable round and oval windows.

                                  If you must.....but I would love to see an option for at least multiple DH or Casements (mulled units) implemented before round or oval since they are typically specialty/limited application.

                                  My 2 pennies worth

                                  Charlie

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                                    medeek
                                    last edited by 17 Jul 2018, 00:33

                                    Can you give me some examples for mulled units.

                                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                                    design.medeek.com

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                                      Charlie__V
                                      last edited by 17 Jul 2018, 01:21

                                      @medeek said:

                                      Can you give me some examples for mulled units.

                                      Just grabbed a page from Andersen casement catalog.
                                      D1F11F10-6653-49DA-B8CF-B0C9C2697667.jpeg

                                      And an in plan image....although this unit is fixed glass.....
                                      C3FDF7A5-2B17-4F67-BF85-F2B1475B5444.jpeg

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                                        medeek
                                        last edited by 17 Jul 2018, 07:59

                                        For a triple casement window I am thinking a single frame with three sashes, does this seem reasonable?

                                        Also I was thinking about oval and round windows earlier today and they are really one in the same, the only difference being the aspect ratio (height/width). A round window is an oval window with an AR = 1.0:

                                        http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/wall_su163_800.jpg

                                        Hence the window height and width will drive the shape of the oval, really no different than a rectangular window.

                                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                                        design.medeek.com

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                                          pilou
                                          last edited by 17 Jul 2018, 08:42

                                          πŸ˜‰

                                          Frenchy Pilou
                                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                          My Little site :)

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