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    Einstein
    last edited by 30 Jan 2018, 13:40

    Fredo, if you plan to make another update to Curviloft, could you please increase max. values of these parameters: Simplify from 0.15 to 0.8 or something (0.15 is very little, in some cases I'd need much more), Sampling and Interpolation from 40 to 100? With previous releases I would have done it by myself by simply editing CurviloftPalette.rb in Notepad but now these codes are encrypted.

    And secondly, there's this bug that when I use the tool, close it and open again, it doesn't bring that menu bar on viewport's top to adjust options but goes straight to generating junction. And I can't come back and set connection options. Have to open a new model and copy my geometry to it. I think it was already discussed somewhere so I'm just bringing it "in the board".

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      L0_Inhabit
      last edited by 20 Feb 2018, 21:45

      Hi, I just installed LibFredo and the latest Curviloft plugin. It works fine when I have 3 or fewer profiles, but I'm trying to connect at least 5. How can I accomplish this? All the profiles are simply copies of the same thing, but it won't work when I try to connect more than 3. I am using an imac on High Sierra 10.13.3, Sketchup Pro 2018, and Curviloft 1.6a. The profiles were first drawn in AutoCAD as polylines and the dwg was imported into Sketchup. They are closed line shapes with no surface in between. I have a screen recording, but it's too large to upload. Is there another way I can send? All advice, tips, observations are welcome!!

      -Lola

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        fredo6
        last edited by 21 Feb 2018, 08:52

        @l0_inhabit said:

        Hi, I just installed LibFredo and the latest Curviloft plugin. It works fine when I have 3 or fewer profiles, but I'm trying to connect at least 5. How can I accomplish this? All the profiles are simply copies of the same thing, but it won't work when I try to connect more than 3. I am using an imac on High Sierra 10.13.3, Sketchup Pro 2018, and Curviloft 1.6a. The profiles were first drawn in AutoCAD as polylines and the dwg was imported into Sketchup. They are closed line shapes with no surface in between. I have a screen recording, but it's too large to upload. Is there another way I can send? All advice, tips, observations are welcome!!

        -Lola

        I think it's best to post the model (or an extract of the model with the 5 profiles).

        Fredo

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          fredo6
          last edited by 21 Feb 2018, 09:08

          @einstein said:

          Fredo, if you plan to make another update to Curviloft, could you please increase max. values of these parameters: Simplify from 0.15 to 0.8 or something (0.15 is very little, in some cases I'd need much more), Sampling and Interpolation from 40 to 100? With previous releases I would have done it by myself by simply editing CurviloftPalette.rb in Notepad but now these codes are encrypted.

          will go in next version

          @einstein said:

          And secondly, there's this bug that when I use the tool, close it and open again, it doesn't bring that menu bar on viewport's top to adjust options but goes straight to generating junction. And I can't come back and set connection options. Have to open a new model and copy my geometry to it. I think it was already discussed somewhere so I'm just bringing it "in the board".

          Not sure I understand. Curviloft never goes directly to generate Sketchup geometry. It ony goes to Preview mode when you have an initial selection.
          Could you clarify and illustrate your case.

          Thanks

          Fredo

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            L0_Inhabit
            last edited by 21 Feb 2018, 15:47

            @fredo6 said:

            @l0_inhabit said:

            Hi, I just installed LibFredo and the latest Curviloft plugin. It works fine when I have 3 or fewer profiles, but I'm trying to connect at least 5. How can I accomplish this? All the profiles are simply copies of the same thing, but it won't work when I try to connect more than 3. I am using an imac on High Sierra 10.13.3, Sketchup Pro 2018, and Curviloft 1.6a. The profiles were first drawn in AutoCAD as polylines and the dwg was imported into Sketchup. They are closed line shapes with no surface in between. I have a screen recording, but it's too large to upload. Is there another way I can send? All advice, tips, observations are welcome!!

            -Lola

            I think it's best to post the model (or an extract of the model with the 5 profiles).

            Fredo

            Sorry, fairly new to this, but thanks for the quick reply. All I have are screenshots, couldn't get the screen recording small enough to upload. The 5 profiles change color after I hit the green checkmark, but never actually form a plane..See attached images! I just started a new post under the same name with my sketchup model attached. Also attaching here..Let me know if that helps!


            3-profiles.png


            3-profiles solid.png


            5-profiles-selected.png


            5-profiles-after-preview.png


            Model~.skp

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              fredo6
              last edited by 21 Feb 2018, 18:16

              @LO_Inhabit

              Very simple. Your model is at a very small scale, with a lot of tiny edges in the profiles (<0.1mm). Sketchup does not like this, and Curviloft neither.

              Just scale the whole model by x50, and Curviloft will make the tube without problem.

              Fredo

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                L0_Inhabit
                last edited by 21 Feb 2018, 18:20

                Aha! I knew it had to be simple!! Thank you so much, Fredo!

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                  fredo6
                  last edited by 23 Feb 2018, 21:34

                  NEW RELEASE: Curviloft v1.7a - 23 Feb 18

                  Curviloft 1.7a is a maintenance release with the following additions:

                  • Parameters can be preserved across Sketchup Sessions. For compatibility reasons, the option must be enabled in the Default Parameters dialog box.
                  • Toolbar icons in SVG (Thanks to RichOBrien) for SU >= 2016
                  • Bug fixing

                  Curviloft - Enabling Save Parameters.png

                  IMPORTANT: It requires LibFredo6 v8.1 or above.


                  See Plugin Page of Curviloft for Download (or use the Sketchup PluginStore plugin for auto-installation.

                  Main post of this thread

                  Fredo

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                    CadFather
                    last edited by 24 Feb 2018, 19:27

                    @fredo6 said:

                    Parameters can be preserved across Sketchup Sessions.

                    Thank you Fredo, was hoping exactly for this! ☀

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                    • JClementsJ Offline
                      JClements
                      last edited by 24 Feb 2018, 21:43

                      Thanks for the update and for informing us so quickly.

                      John | Illustrator | Beaverton, Oregon

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                        fredo6
                        last edited by 24 Feb 2018, 22:24

                        You're welcome.

                        One day, I'll need to update the GUI to make it clearer (and cleaner). After all these years, I realize that Curviloft is still in Beta!

                        Fredo

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                          Einstein
                          last edited by 25 Feb 2018, 16:26

                          @einstein said:

                          And secondly, there's this bug that when I use the tool, close it and open again, it doesn't bring that menu bar on viewport's top to adjust options but goes straight to generating junction. And I can't come back and set connection options. Have to open a new model and copy my geometry to it. I think it was already discussed somewhere so I'm just bringing it "in the board".

                          Not sure I understand. Curviloft never goes directly to generate Sketchup geometry. It ony goes to Preview mode when you have an initial selection.
                          Could you clarify and illustrate your case.

                          Thanks

                          Fredo[/quote]

                          Referring to "preview mode bug":
                          when I select contours and run Skin Contours (or preselect the tool, regardless) I cannot bring the grey toolbar to set parameters. It goes straight to surface generation.
                          I tried various sets of contours, every time the same thing happens.


                          curviloft.png

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                            fredo6
                            last edited by 25 Feb 2018, 17:02

                            @einstein said:

                            Referring to "preview mode bug":
                            when I select contours and run Skin Contours (or preselect the tool, regardless) I cannot bring the grey toolbar to set parameters. It goes straight to surface generation.
                            I tried various sets of contours, every time the same thing happens.

                            That's not what I observe.
                            Your profile says you use SU2014. Is it the version you use for this buggy situation?

                            Fredo

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                              Einstein
                              last edited by 25 Feb 2018, 17:45

                              @fredo6 said:

                              @einstein said:

                              Referring to "preview mode bug":
                              when I select contours and run Skin Contours (or preselect the tool, regardless) I cannot bring the grey toolbar to set parameters. It goes straight to surface generation.
                              I tried various sets of contours, every time the same thing happens.

                              That's not what I observe.
                              Your profile says you use SU2014. Is it the version you use for this buggy situation?

                              Fredo

                              I'm using SU 2017 (updated my profile just now) and updated Curviloft to newest version.
                              I was thinking, if you have time, you could create another command in drop-down menu like "Go back to settings" next to "Go back to contour selection".

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                                fredo6
                                last edited by 25 Feb 2018, 20:58

                                @einstein said:

                                I'm using SU 2017 (updated my profile just now) and updated Curviloft to newest version.
                                I was thinking, if you have time, you could create another command in drop-down menu like "Go back to settings" next to "Go back to contour selection".

                                I am still puzzled by the fact that you could go directly to Generation.
                                Does it happen with any model?

                                For going back to Preview from Generation, just use the Orange Back Arrow in the palette.

                                Fredo

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                                  Einstein
                                  last edited by 26 Feb 2018, 17:57

                                  As in the screenshot, I cannot see Orange Back Arrow, no arrows at all. The tools gets stuck at the stage of generating geometry. It happens when I create a set of contours which is too difficult for the tool to process (precisely: to distinguish where one contour ends and starts next one - this is how I understand it). I still can select contours manually but I cannot adjust properties because the grey toolbar never appears.

                                  Here's an example model - when I select contours and run Skin Contours, no surface is generated. Then I go back to contour selection, pick them manually and OK, the surface is being created but I cannot add sampling, interpolation etc.

                                  What's more, if this happens, entire model gets "infected" and the grey toolbar doesn't appear anymore, even with other contour sets. Until I restart SU.


                                  problematic contour set.skp

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                                    fredo6
                                    last edited by 26 Feb 2018, 19:34

                                    @einstein said:

                                    As in the screenshot, I cannot see Orange Back Arrow, no arrows at all. The tools gets stuck at the stage of generating geometry. It happens when I create a set of contours which is too difficult for the tool to process (precisely: to distinguish where one contour ends and starts next one - this is how I understand it). I still can select contours manually but I cannot adjust properties because the grey toolbar never appears.

                                    Here's an example model - when I select contours and run Skin Contours, no surface is generated. Then I go back to contour selection, pick them manually and OK, the surface is being created but I cannot add sampling, interpolation etc.

                                    What's more, if this happens, entire model gets "infected" and the grey toolbar doesn't appear anymore, even with other contour sets. Until I restart SU.

                                    I have not seen a screenshort in your post. The Orange Back Arrow is in the button palette.

                                    For your model, Curviloft is not perfect, and there are situations where it looses control. In your case, and more generally for skinning, it is a good practice to put small delimitor edges to help Curviloft find out where to cut the contours.

                                    Curviloft - Skin - Delimitations.png

                                    Curviloft - Skin - Delimitations 2.png

                                    Curviloft - Skin - Delimitations 3.png

                                    Fredo

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                                      jgb
                                      last edited by 26 Feb 2018, 19:58

                                      One trick I have found when trying to CL a perimeter that is conjoined with other entities in the model is take a copy of the perimeter and move it (on an axis) out away from the model.

                                      That makes it far easier to edit out anomalies that prevent the mesh from forming. You can also simplify the perimeter by deleting 2 adjacent short lines or deleting fragments and make one endpoint to endpoint line in their place.

                                      Then you can create the surface without problem.

                                      After which move the meshed group back to the model along the axis and cleanup the model where the lines should meet the surfaces endpoints.


                                      jgb

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                                        Einstein
                                        last edited by 26 Feb 2018, 22:40

                                        In other words: my problem is not that I cannot create a surface - I can manage it. I cannot modify parameters of generation: sampling, interpolation etc. Here I put the screen again, it shows yellow processing bar. At this stage I cannot call back that grey settings toolbar. Even if the mesh is created. I said about "difficult" contour sets because they stop the toolbar from showing, even though the surface is still being generated.


                                        curviloft.png

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                                          fredo6
                                          last edited by 27 Feb 2018, 22:50

                                          NEW RELEASE: Curviloft v1.7c - 27 Feb 18

                                          Curviloft 1.7c is a major maintenance release fixing bugs in the Edge Selection process

                                          In particular, Curviloft displays a message box whenever the contours are not complinat with a generation of geometry. This is the case for the Skinning tool when selected edges cannot be interpreted as sequences of 3 or 4 curve portions.

                                          Curviloft Error Compliance.png

                                          IMPORTANT: It requires LibFredo6 v8.1c or above.


                                          See Plugin Page of Curviloft for Download (or use the Sketchup PluginStore plugin for auto-installation.

                                          Main post of this thread

                                          Fredo

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