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  • F Offline
    fredo6
    last edited by 23 Dec 2017, 08:54

    @tboy said:

    Is it possible to inspect commands activated by buttons inside ruby console?
    "Listener mode" of the console or something, that will show/expose these code lines from your answer?

    I am not sure I understand what you wish to accomplish.
    Most of my plugins are launched by LibFredo6, so not with a straightforward method. However. for some, like FredoScale, I have built a small API, which is supported.
    If you need launch commands from other plugins, just tell me.

    Fredo

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      TBoy
      last edited by 23 Dec 2017, 09:31

      @fredo6 said:

      I am not sure I understand what you wish to accomplish.
      Fredo

      I have a lot of scripts = a lot of toolbars with 1 single icon. I want to combine some of these in 1 toolbar. That's why I'm asking if there is method to obtain name and command to start someones script (most are coded). I hope this is not against rules.
      This is a general question, not only about your tools.

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        fredo6
        last edited by 23 Dec 2017, 09:44

        Nothing against the rules, at least on my side.

        Many plugin authors puts the launch of commands in their top Ruby file, which is not encrypted. So it's easy to replicate the Ruby code.

        For my plugins, I use another mechanism, so it's less easy to find out. Better ask. Do not hesitate.

        Fredo

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          MadeMaker
          last edited by 29 Jan 2018, 23:41

          Guys, I'm having a problem with my Fredoscale Radial Bending tool and need help fast.
          When bending objects in a direction at other angles except 180, it works fine. When I try bending in a specific direction and type 180 degrees, the object snaps and forms at the opposite diection most times which is not the desired direction for the 180 degrees bend.
          Pls, I'll really appreciate a solution to this problem...thanks.

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            fredo6
            last edited by 30 Jan 2018, 09:29

            @mademaker said:

            Guys, I'm having a problem with my Fredoscale Radial Bending tool and need help fast.
            When bending objects in a direction at other angles except 180, it works fine. When I try bending in a specific direction and type 180 degrees, the object snaps and forms at the opposite diection most times which is not the desired direction for the 180 degrees bend.
            Pls, I'll really appreciate a solution to this problem...thanks.

            Think of it, an angle of 180 degree cannot be handled in a single curve operation because the curvature would be reduced to a point.

            If you wish something like a horseshoe, do it with 2 successive bending.

            Would help anyway if you post a picture or the model.

            Fredo

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              MadeMaker
              last edited by 31 Jan 2018, 02:22

              @fredo6 said:

              @mademaker said:

              Guys, I'm having a problem with my Fredoscale Radial Bending tool and need help fast.
              When bending objects in a direction at other angles except 180, it works fine. When I try bending in a specific direction and type 180 degrees, the object snaps and forms at the opposite diection most times which is not the desired direction for the 180 degrees bend.
              Pls, I'll really appreciate a solution to this problem...thanks.

              Think of it, an angle of 180 degree cannot be handled in a single curve operation because the curvature would be reduced to a point.

              If you wish something like a horseshoe, do it with 2 successive bending.

              Would help anyway if you post a picture or the model.

              Fredo

              Here are some illustrative pics...


              Desired Direction


              The anticlockwise arrow shows the desired direction of bend, but when I input 180 degrees and click ENTER the bend snaps to the opposite direction forming that awkward stair.

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                james_h
                last edited by 8 Feb 2018, 16:29

                Hi all,

                Long-time lurker here, making a first post.

                First: Thanks Fredo6 for such a great set of tools! Really impressive.

                Next, here's details of a problem I've seen a few time with Radial Bending. Apologies in advance if it's already covered elsewhere.

                I see Radial Bending generally work well. However, with some geometry, it does not create clean faces. The new geometry has gaps, e.g. where an edge is not created or where a face is not created.

                Here's a demo showing the problem. Note the missing faces seen after the Radial Bend has been applied. I would appreciate any advice on how to better use the tool to avoid the problem.

                I'm using SU 2017. The fredo6 plugins are all at latest versions. I tried adjusting the Number of Slices parameter to various values and see the same problem. I'm aware that SU sometimes struggles with very short edges. The geometry in the demo was re-scaled to be 8.1 metres in height.

                Finally, this demo covers Radial Bending. I see similar problems with Box Twist when working with similar geometry.

                Thanks for any advice.

                James.


                RadialBendDemo-2.gif

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                  fredo6
                  last edited by 9 Feb 2018, 06:46

                  @James_h

                  Thank you for signaling this. It is true that bending a complex set of faces create issues in the geometry.

                  I think the best would be that you post the model so that I have a look.

                  Thanks

                  Fredo

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                    james_h
                    last edited by 9 Feb 2018, 13:58

                    Thanks Fredo.

                    Here's some supporting files:

                    1. Step-4.0.3 RadialBendDemo-Before-ThickDiamondTwist-1.skp : SU model just before Radial Bend is used.
                    2. Step-4.0.3 RadialBendDemo-After-ThickDiamondTwist-1.skp : SU model just after Radial Bend is used. This shows the gaps in edges & faces.
                    3. RadialBendDemo-2-Params.gif : Screenshot of the Radial Bend tool parameters used when creating "After".

                    Thanks again for any advice you can offer.

                    Kind regards,

                    James.


                    Before


                    After


                    Parameters

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                      Kabisdokh
                      last edited by 21 Feb 2018, 20:33

                      Hello. I have a small problem with radial bending tool. When I try to use it my figures loose some surfaces and edges as in example. What I did wrong? Could you help me with it?


                      Clipboard02.png

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                        fredo6
                        last edited by 21 Feb 2018, 21:15

                        @kabisdokh said:

                        Hello. I have a small problem with radial bending tool. When I try to use it my figures loose some surfaces and edges as in example. What I did wrong? Could you help me with it?

                        I suggest you check the scale of your model. When it is too small (in mm), Sketchup is reluctant to create faces (and so does FredoScale or any plugin).
                        The solution is simply to scale up the model by a factor of x10 or more.

                        Fredo

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                          n000bie
                          last edited by 24 Feb 2018, 07:23

                          **Hi Fredo,
                          Firstly I want to say thank you so much for all your works and plugins, not only they work so perfect with good use, also for your continuously effort to improve it πŸ‘ . Thank you.

                          I'm working on this model of 3D female character. The shapes and textures are all on and completed, but the form still not good enough, so I used Tapering Scale to kinda reform the model. Problem is : after scaling finished, the textures are all messed up. A quick study help me understand the reason is perhaps Tapering Scale changes the model's verticals coordination but not the textures ones, new lines/verticals are also added, so the the textures seems to lose their "matched" faces.

                          I've tried but couldn't find a way to "lock" the textures into the applied meshes/faces , and the model is quite complex to do a face-by-face texture position edit. I'm not expecting any kind of detailed walk-through or complaining about the plugin, with true respect - your plugins just great ! Just hoping if there's any hint/advise or some way to go around this issue, please help. Ill be so thankful !

                          Properly my first post here, hopefully you and everyone can forgive my rush question if my problem here is already acknowledged and solved, in that case, please give me a hint/ID of the post so I would figure out myself, thanks all.**

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                            fredo6
                            last edited by 24 Feb 2018, 08:39

                            @n000bie,

                            Tapering (as opposed to Scale) modifies the relative shape of individual faces. So this will impact the UV coordinates very likely. That's why the usual workflow is to prepare the model without textures and only do the painting in the end.

                            I am not sure FredoScale can do something, but I am interested in seeing the problem, if you post the model.

                            Fredo

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                              n000bie
                              last edited by 24 Feb 2018, 09:28

                              Hi Fredo, thanks for your prompt reply.

                              I'm posting below some screen shots showing my problem, along with my model, fyi πŸ˜„ .

                              I guess a bit more explanation should help : I've managed to get this model as and OBJ file, along with material settings, then easy to re-composing the model with its maps by using 3D-Max, since there is no UVW Map Unwrap/Re mapping tool in Sketchup. But for the model developing/shape editing works, I've always used Sketchup (my 3D Max skill just not enough).

                              So then I found out the model is kind of "squeezed" by some perspective-affection, making it not in an ISO-3D form, but actually into a Perspective form (like a cubic box with front face is bigger than back face - following perspective rule of view). Thought it'd be easy to tweak it with Tapering Scale, but .. things just not easy as it seems to be, hah.

                              Again, appreciated your help and thank you.


                              Tempering Attemp 1.jpg


                              Tempering Attemp 2.jpg


                              Head test 3.skp

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                              • n000bieN Offline
                                n000bie
                                last edited by 24 Feb 2018, 09:34

                                Just want to add : properly you will find the model looks just fine, but I have other parts/ models that is worse affected, just posting here the one I'm currently working on. Thanks.

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                                  Einstein
                                  last edited by 18 Mar 2018, 13:36

                                  Hi!

                                  I think "Twisting" could be added to the manual. It takes a while to find out that TAB brings slicing settings πŸ˜‰

                                  Or there could be a hint in the left-bottom corner of UI "press TAB to set slicing params"

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                                    Einstein
                                    last edited by 18 Mar 2018, 20:41

                                    Hi!

                                    I am using Box Tapering. Is it possible to orientate the deformation box to bounding box instead of "best-fitting"?


                                    how to orientate box.png

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                                      fredo6
                                      last edited by 18 Mar 2018, 21:23

                                      @einstein said:

                                      Hi!

                                      I am using Box Tapering. Is it possible to orientate the deformation box to bounding box instead of "best-fitting"?

                                      Just find an edge or a face in the model which has the proper direction and click on it to orientate the box.

                                      You can also type Arrow Up, which default to the XYZ bounding box along axis.

                                      Fredo

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                                        Einstein
                                        last edited by 4 Apr 2018, 16:59

                                        Hi!

                                        I have an idea for next upgrade.

                                        As you can see in the picture, if I apply Box Tapering on a bunch of loose edges (not grouped), the content is copied and only then transformed. What if we could use it as a "sculpting" tool? I mean such behaviour that geometry is not copied, just transformed with its connected edges staying connected, so it would be "content aware". In the illustrated case changes would apply to the mesh.


                                        FredoScale upgrade request.png


                                        FredoScale.skp

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                                          Lopismagic
                                          last edited by 11 May 2018, 15:09

                                          You are just a f***ing genius.

                                          Merci, merci, merci.

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