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      Soccorritori
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      Just switched from PC to Mac and boy was I surprised to find that It just looks awful. MacBook Pro Radeon Pro 455, It's actually pretty expensive....

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        slbaumgartner
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        The problem isn't with your Mac, it is that the SketchUp team did not implement any support for anti-aliasing when they coded the new graphics pipeline for 2017 on Mac. I haven't seen an explanation of why, just acknowledgment that's what they did.

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          pbacot
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          I've been living with this forever on all versions, because I can't stand the poor performance when I do the AA uptick. You can still use SU! But anyway, why worry because 2017 really has nothing special to offer.

          I think in general SU is worse on a Mac. For rendering and SU, I'd consider Windows.

          MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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            Paul Russam
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            I love my mac but (in my opinion) the MacOS version of SU is damn awful, the materials palette, the layer control and as mentioned above the AA, all of them horrible compared to the Windows version. Plus ... the incredibly poor toolbar layout (or lack of) options.
            I have SU2017/Win10 running in bootcamp and it's a beast but then it should be with an i7, 16Gb and the meaty Radion R9.
            I know Mac's are damn expensive (this one was £2000) but I just sold my old 2008 MBP Core2Duo for £150 and the new owner couldn't be happier, 10 years old and still going like a champ. Try saying that about a 10 year old Windows box.

            Paul Russam
            English doesn't borrow from other languages. It follows them down dark allies, knocks them over, and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.

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              mwm5053
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              My brother gave me his MacPro 1st gen 2006 because I wanted a quad core for rendering, still running. So I've had a MBP a Mac Mini and now a used iMac. The only reason I don't use the MacPro is it's a 32 bit machine. I would rather quit computing altogether if I had to go back to Windows. Everything about Mac is better except this one issue. I've just learned to live with it. What I don't understand is, the videos I've seen of the SU team on a computer it's always a Mac. How do they sleep at night.

              2011 iMac
              SU 2015 Pro, 2017 Make
              V2 Twilight
              macOS Sierra 10.12.5

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                mwm5053
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                And I haven't paid for anti virus ware in ten years.

                2011 iMac
                SU 2015 Pro, 2017 Make
                V2 Twilight
                macOS Sierra 10.12.5

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                  pbacot
                  last edited by

                  I don't know about layer control but the materials palette (which may be impossible for Trimble to fix on Mac), the speed, AA, and how tool palettes and windows are (NOT) handled on the Mac make it worse. (However we don't have the problem Windows users have with "trays"--don't even understand what that is!) In general I believe you can't get a Mac to render as fast... So it's worse--not just the AA issue. but, yes I don't want to use windows either. I also find my latest MBP to be durable, both in keeping up with OS changes, comparable power, security, and physically. Pretty much trouble free. Years ago I've also made up for some of the higher cost when Apple upgraded me to a new gen computer just because my screen crapped out and they didn't want to replace it.

                  MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                    skeerc
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                    Does anyone know of any progress regarding the Mac Sierra SKP 2017 anti aliasing situation or the chance of a possible fix/outcome. I've noticed the comment that this issue has been looked into by the Trimble team & that it's a Mac graphics card problem but still doesn't help at all with being locked into v2016 Pro & paying for 2017 which will be up for 'maintanence renewal' in the near future.

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                      pbacot
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                      Just consider it maintenance for 2016. Why upgrade? Nothing worthwhile to upgrade for.

                      MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                        Play404
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                        Just the other day as I was working away I opened a new SketchUp window to past some parts in and noticed that it had smooth crisp anti aliasing line work. It was only this window. I couldn't recreate it by opening more windows.

                        Working on a Retina display with a 1080p monitor hooked up if I dragged the window to the secondary monitor it looked good, not like it usually does.

                        I could drag other projects / SketchUp files into this window and they would look really good. I changed the style settings to match my other open SketchUp windows and I could see a clear difference.

                        I kept this window open for a few days to enjoy the crisp line work before I had to restart due to an update.

                        Hopefully this is fixed with High Sierra & SketchUp 2018

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                          Play404
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                          I figured out a consistent way to get anti aliasing to work on my MBP 2016 running macOS Sierra.

                          For this to work you need the MacBook plugged into an external monitor, I have had it working on 2 different external monitors.

                          1 - Launch Layout and move the window to the external monitor.
                          2 - Right click on layout viewport to SketchUp model and select 'open with SketchUp' (SketchUp should not be running)
                          3 - SketchUp should launch on MacBook screen with much finer line work.

                          Don't know why it works but is does.

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                            skeerc
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                            Hi, Has anyone loaded & tried Mac High Sierra & SketchUp 2018 yet to see if the anti-aliasing issue is still with us. I'm unlikely to be using dual monitors as a work around. In regards to "why" upgrade, other plugin developers are upgrading such as Skalp who I also pay a maintenance fee too & like using their product.

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                              slbaumgartner
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                              In Preferences->OpenGL SketchUp 2018 provides choices for AA. They work on my mid-2012 MBP Retina on High Sierra 10.13.1.

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                                pbacot
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                                @slbaumgartner said:

                                In Preferences->OpenGL SketchUp 2018 provides choices for AA. They work on my mid-2012 MBP Retina on High Sierra 10.13.1.

                                Really? That's interesting. So we can now (finally) set the AA with a preference like the Windows version? How about the hit in performance with finer AA? Might be a reason to upgrade.

                                ...said someone who never bothered to load 2017.

                                MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                  skeerc
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                                  That sure is "interesting"!! Glad I asked. Thanks slbaumgartner

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