Twinmotion 2018 with Unreal engine :)
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@solo said:
Rich, are you on the beta team?
Yeah, I got access yesterday via invite. I'll see if they need more SU Pros to weigh in on the testing.
So far if you use the packaged assets it remains super fast to use.
When you try to import external assets it begins to stutter.
Could be the format I'm importing though. Need to do more tests.
But it also suffers from creating 100s of textures if faces are ngons in SU.
I submitted some bugs let's see if it fixes it.
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@rich o brien said:
@solo said:
Rich, are you on the beta team?
Yeah, I got access yesterday via invite. I'll see if they need more SU Pros to weigh in on the testing.
Great! But isn't it going to be announced in a couple of weeks or so? Isn't it a bit late for beta testing at the moment?
Not that I'm interested or anything,
but I do use SU professionally and I do like what Twinmotion seems to promise, and I'm also an architect and I also have some pretty good notions of rendering and I do beta test a lot of stuff...Maybe I could be convinced to participate on that beta somehow if they are interested. LOL!
Please do talk with them Rich!
@rich o brien said:
But it also suffers from creating 100s of textures if faces are ngons in SU.
Oh no! My beloved ngons! I cannot live without them anymore... (Note to self - I have to ask the right person about ngon support for WrapR. Can't bare triangulating all my SU arch models anymore...)
Usually when a software doesn't deal well with ngons it also ignores glued components. Have you tried Rich?
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The real big news is that this finally brings Macs into the real time rendering party.
It would be really, really cool, but highly unlikely, if they supported Intel Iris Pro, so even users of 13" Macbook Pros can use this.
So far, I'm resigned to only being able to use LightUp on my Macbook Air for video rendering.
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I don't own a mac and I can see news here. Lightup seems an incredible piece of software and works inside SU, it has tremendous potential.
I like it a bit more realistic lighting and use Thea, realtime is coming very near and Unreal is the nearest Ive seen.
So Twinmotion is very worth trying for a lot more reasons than owning a mac and needing realtime.
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Hello,
Here are some nice images and panoramas rendered in Twinmotion 2018 by our CG Artist Martin Krasemann: https://www.artstation.com/artwork/WVggN
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@abvent said:
Hello,
Here are some nice images and panoramas rendered in Twinmotion 2018 by our CG Artist Martin Krasemann: https://www.artstation.com/artwork/WVggN
Hi Tiaixiao,
Honestly I feel they look a bit too CG, I see alias effects, colors are too saturated, people and vegetation models are looking too low poly and grass is popping out of place, there's no great sense of depth and light doesn't feel as realistic as I've seen before coming from UE...
On the twinmotion for mac video I saw something that was looking better with better Global Illumination and the material settings seemed better.
I think they are probably rendered by the same artist so what has changed?
Are these rendered at highest settings?
Is it a post pro thing?
It's probably impossible to tell and I have to try it myself when it's released...
Thanks for sharing.
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I dunno, kinda feel let down, was hoping that the interior GI was better, so far I'm unimpressed, was so hoping for the next best thing.
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Congratulations on the release I hope it will bring you success and realtime for architecture will raise it's quality, overall too.
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I had high hopes for this, but yet again the complete lack of activity over on the Twinmotion forums so soon after a big release puts me off completely. I really wanted a good alternative to Lumion.
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@cadmunkey said:
I had high hopes for this, but yet again the complete lack of activity over on the Twinmotion forums so soon after a big release puts me off completely. I really wanted a good alternative to Lumion.
Did you try it?
It's vacation time. I will try it as soon as I can. I will try Lumion too.
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@jql said:
Did you try it?
Downloaded the trial and going to import a model I did for a Lumion presentation to compare the differences. Hopefully, I will have time to start on it today.
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@cadmunkey said:
@jql said:
Did you try it?
Downloaded the trial and going to import a model I did for a Lumion presentation to compare the differences. Hopefully, I will have time to start on it today.
Feedback would be much appreciated
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@jql said:
@cadmunkey said:
Feedback would be much appreciated
Well it crashed after 45 mins and I lost everything so not a great start
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@cadmunkey said:
@jql said:
@cadmunkey said:
Feedback would be much appreciated
Well it crashed after 45 mins and I lost everything so not a great start
Not the sort of feedback I was expecting...
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@jql said:
Not the sort of feedback I was expecting...
Actually before it did crash I was quite impressed, the user interface is simple and materials quick to use. Didnt get chance to export images/video but I will give it another try.
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I tried it for 30min. IMO great user interface and easy to use with all you need to populate context...but quality of images is not enough. It is good for games though.
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To be fair though, neither Twinmotion nor Lumion are really going to be used for 2D images, they are animation creation software. Its cheaper to buy a Vray licence if you want superior 2D images, Twinmotion/Lumion are not trying to compete with them there.
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@cadmunkey said:
To be fair though, neither Twinmotion nor Lumion are really going to be used for 2D images, they are animation creation software. Its cheaper to buy a Vray licence if you want superior 2D images, Twinmotion/Lumion are not trying to compete with them there.
I don't agree.
Realtime rendering is evolving and with a bit of extra post-pro you can achieve the same quality already. Specially if you're not striving for photorealism as the ultimate goal.
If you do you can still take a look at Unity, Unreal, Frostbyte, etc, improvements in Global Illumination. It still does not have the same quality but it's getting very near.
The real deal breaker for us SU users is UV unwrapping of a SU model, and the export import process, specially if it's a complex model.
Lumion and Twinmotion take care of that, but GI quality is still not that great. Furthermore material systems seem limited and the objects are still too low poly. That's why Twinmotion seemed such great news.
I'm feeling I'll move into that direction in due time.
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Well I had another play with it. Import errors on models, still crashes after a while, and pretty poor 2d exports means I will give this version a miss. Lumion is still a superior product. Really was hoping for better things with it now it is using Unreal.
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@cadmunkey said:
Import errors on models, still crashes after a while.
I raised this during the beta but was ignored. Last time I'll waste my time testing for Abvent.
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