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  • M Offline
    medeek
    last edited by 8 Jun 2017, 03:23

    In the global settings I've added a setting to switch between metal and wood connector plates. Initially I will only enable wood plates for some of the more typical common trusses (ie. fink, howe, queen and king), if this feature proves to be popular I may enable it for more truss types.

    http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su232_800.jpg

    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
    Medeek Engineering Inc
    design.medeek.com

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      medeek
      last edited by 10 Jun 2017, 06:31

      Version 1.9.1 - 06.09.2017

      • Added plywood gusset plates for common fink trusses.
      • Enabled a "WOOD" plate type option in the global settings.

      http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su233_800.jpg

      *Note that the wood gussets are currently only available for the Fink truss, if anyone needs them enabled for a different truss please let me know.

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      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
      Medeek Engineering Inc
      design.medeek.com

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        medeek
        last edited by 11 Jun 2017, 00:20

        Added plywood gusset plates for raised heel common fink trusses.

        http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su234_800.jpg

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        Note that there are currently no calcs associated with these WGC trusses. If you are going to build your own trusses I would strongly suggest you find a local structural engineer to assist in specifying the plates sizes and fasteners, especially if the truss span is greater than 16 feet and your snow loads are greater than 25 psf in your region.

        When I engineer WGC trusses I will also call out a waterproof glue as well however I don't take the glue's strength into the calculations. This provides another margin of safety and also the rigidity of a glued and nailed gusset plated truss is superior in my opinion to your typical MPC truss.

        Every member is critical in a truss, however some are more stressed than others. Your top and bottom chords should never be anything less than a No. 2 DF. I would suggest No. 1, No. 1 & Btr. or Select Structural. The webs of a typical truss are usually stressed quite a bit less than the chords and sometimes you can get away with stud grade lumber but I would suggest DF No. 2 on all webs as well. A strategically placed knot can easily ruin an entire truss.

        Just as important as the materials is the level of care taken in cutting the members and assembling the truss. All joints should fit tightly together so that members in compression can bear directly on their adjacent members. Also realize that tension members may experience load reversals in high wind or seismic events so even tension members are no exception to the rule.

        The correct fasteners and fastener size is critical. The nails will be in single or double shear and the joint connection is relying entirely on this shear strength of the fasteners to hold together. Fasteners too close to the edge or ends of a member are not as effective, so fastener placement is also critical.

        I am curious how the two truss types would compare in a burn test, which one would stay intact longer. My suspicion is that the plywood gussets would char and slowly burn however the metal plates would heat up and loose their strength quickly and fail.

        I know most people don't do this but I would personally stress test each truss before installing it on the intended structure. Mostly what you are looking for is a uniform deflection across all the trusses so that they can load balance properly. If a truss is defective this test should help ferret out this data even though visually the truss may look acceptable.

        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
        Medeek Engineering Inc
        design.medeek.com

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          medeek
          last edited by 11 Jun 2017, 20:17

          Just for the record the algorithm to size and position the mid top chord to web plate (Plate 2) is a real piece of work:

          gamma2 = 3.14159265358979 * 0.5 - @Phi
          length2 = @Pldim2 * 0.5 -1
          p3x = @Swx4 + length2 * (cos(@Theta2) / cos(gamma2 - @Theta2))
          p3y = @Swy4 - length2 * (sin(@Theta2) / cos(gamma2 - @Theta2))
          p2x = p3x - (@Tcd + length2) * cos(gamma2)
          p2y = p3y + (@Tcd + length2) * sin(gamma2)
          p1x = p2x - @Pldim2 * cos(@Phi)
          p1y = p2y - @Pldim2 * sin(@Phi)
          length4 = sqrt((@Strx4 - p1x)*(@Strx4 - p1x) + (@Stry4 - p1y)*(@Stry4 - p1y))
          zeta2 = atan((p1y - @Stry4)/(@Strx4 - p1x))
          length3 = length4 * sin(zeta2 + @Theta3) / sin(3.14159265358979 * 0.5 + @Phi - @Theta3)
          p4x = p1x + length3 * cos(gamma2)
          p4y = p1y - length3 * sin(gamma2)
          
          if @Theta2 > gamma2
            p2x = p3x - ((@Tcd + length2) / (cos(@Theta2 - gamma2))) * cos(@Theta2)
            p2y = p3y + ((@Tcd + length2) / (cos(@Theta2 - gamma2))) * sin(@Theta2)
          end
          

          Actually had to use the Sine Law: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_sines

          Its funny because my 15 year old daughter just covered trigonometry in her math class and she told me she would never use this stuff so why learn it.

          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
          Medeek Engineering Inc
          design.medeek.com

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            pbacot
            last edited by 11 Jun 2017, 22:41

            Nice additions to the plugin. Impressive work too. I guess you have engineering training but what else has helped you tackle these programming problems?

            Peter

            MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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              medeek
              last edited by 12 Jun 2017, 00:05

              There is really very little engineering going on in this plugin, at least for now. Most of it is boolean algebra (conditional statements and a few loops) and a lot of geometry most of which can be solved with simple trigonometry. In a few cases I have to implement an iterative solution so convergence is sometimes an issue. The rest of it is simply manipulating the SketchUp API so that it produces the correct output, that is my Achilles heel.

              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
              Medeek Engineering Inc
              design.medeek.com

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              • M Offline
                medeek
                last edited by 13 Jun 2017, 19:33

                I may have opened Pandora's box with the addition of the WGC fink trusses. I've now had a couple of requests for cut list associated with these trusses. I don't think it would be that hard to generate an html output using SVG showing the various members and their dimensions. This can then be printed to a PDF document by the user.

                Any thoughts on creating construction drawings this way. I am essentially bypassing SketchUp's Layout with an Html/SVG solution but perhaps there is a better way.

                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                Medeek Engineering Inc
                design.medeek.com

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                • J Offline
                  juju
                  last edited by 13 Jun 2017, 19:45

                  If you're going that route be 100% sure the engineering is correct.

                  Personally, I think that is going tò far for general use, but may be fine for an engineering version.

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                  • M Offline
                    medeek
                    last edited by 13 Jun 2017, 20:02

                    It's definitely not on top of the todo list but it is interesting how quickly there was a response and request for a cut list of construction drawings.

                    I agree if I'm to take it this far I will probably want to make sure the engineering is bullet proof, so the short answer for now is that it is probably not going to happen in the near future.

                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                    design.medeek.com

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                    • M Offline
                      medeek
                      last edited by 15 Jun 2017, 01:24

                      I've had a request for an option that makes it so the plugin only draws the top and bottom chords and not the webs. I guess I could see a reason for this in some situations. I'm just wondering if there are any others who would be interested in this option.

                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                      design.medeek.com

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                        medeek
                        last edited by 17 Jun 2017, 06:03

                        I've been thinking about site built trusses some more and trying to apply some rational thought to how best to nail together a WGC truss. If you consider nails in single shear, 8d nails spaced at 4" between fasteners with a row spacing of 1" and and end spacing of 1.5" you end up with something like this.

                        http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su235_800.jpg

                        Those are 8d common nails so they aren't very big but spaced at 2" between nails in a row I would be afraid of splitting that bottom chord.

                        Looking at this I'm fairly convinced that going with longer nails that are in double shear and clinched give more bang for the buck, allow less nails and thereby less chance of splitting the truss members. Thoughts?

                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                        design.medeek.com

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                          medeek
                          last edited by 17 Jun 2017, 17:15

                          Nailing from both sides is not reasonable in my opinion, there is no way to line up the nails easily from one side to the other, better to just nail from one side which bring me back to nails in double shear.

                          Using a 10d common nail (.148 x 3) and with 1/2" of protruding nail to clinch I get this layout:

                          http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su236_800.jpg

                          with the backside looking something like this:

                          http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su237_800.jpg

                          I probably don't need a 2.25" end distance (15D) on the plate edge toward the inside of the truss but I am using Table C11.1.6.6 from the NDS Commentary (NDS 2012).

                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                          design.medeek.com

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                            medeek
                            last edited by 17 Jun 2017, 22:00

                            If you compare the capacity of a single shear and double shear connection in most cases you get double the capacity, see results for a 10D nail into DF and Structural 1 Plywood below:

                            http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/NAIL_CALCULATOR.jpg

                            So returning to our previous example we now have 2180.9lbs/176.3lbs = 12.4 => 13 fasteners in double shear, rather than 25 fasteners in single shear, a much more reasonable number of fasteners

                            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                            Medeek Engineering Inc
                            design.medeek.com

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                              medeek
                              last edited by 18 Jun 2017, 20:26

                              If we consider the peak joint as rigid (web joints are pin jointed), one can see that the moment at the peak is fairly substantial (145 ft-lbs):

                              http://res.cloudinary.com/engineering-com/image/upload/v1497806015/tips/2017-06-18TCgraph32misc_idp4bf.png

                              Both the top chords are in compression and pushing against each other, so the member on member contact is transferring a significant amount of that compressive axial load.

                              http://design.medeek.com/calculator/images/fink_joint3.jpg

                              To account for the component of the load that is not being transferred at this joint I can probably use the equation from the TPI 1 for MPC trusses:

                              Pc' = sqrt(P[sub:y7ifrpex]P[/sub:y7ifrpex][sup:y7ifrpex]2[/sup:y7ifrpex] + (P[sub:y7ifrpex]N[/sub:y7ifrpex] x C[sub:y7ifrpex]r[/sub:y7ifrpex])[sup:y7ifrpex]2[/sup:y7ifrpex] (Sec. 8.3.3.3)

                              where:

                              P[sub:y7ifrpex]c[/sub:y7ifrpex]' = Resultant compressive force used for determination of minimum required metal plate contact area (lbs)
                              C[sub:y7ifrpex]R[/sub:y7ifrpex] = Reduction factor for cmopression force component across the joint interface for metal connector plate design: 0≤CR≤1.0 (lbs)
                              P[sub:y7ifrpex]iN[/sub:y7ifrpex] = Compression force component of the wood member under investigation normal to the wood member interface (lbs)
                              P[sub:y7ifrpex]iP[/sub:y7ifrpex] = Compression force component of the wood member under investigation parallel to the wood member interface (lbs)

                              With the resultant being:

                              CR = 0.5
                              Pi = F23 = 2021.83 lbs.
                              PiN = Picos(Φ) = 2021.8 x cos(18.43) = 1918.1 lbs.
                              PiP = Pisin(Φ) = 2021.8 x sin(18.43) = 639.4 lbs.

                              θ = atan(PiP/PiN x CR) - Φ = atan(639.4/1918.1 x 0.5) - 18.43 = 15.3 deg. (angle between resultant compressive force and chord member)

                              Pc' = √(PiP)2 + (PiN x CR)2 = √(639.4)2 + (1918.1 x 0.5)2 = 1152.6 lbs. @ 15.3 deg.

                              I kind of get the logic behind this equation but I question where does the Cr (reduction factor) come from? and why a value of 0.5?

                              I'm also looking at the rather large moment at this joint between the two top chords and wondering how best to factor that in.

                              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                              Medeek Engineering Inc
                              design.medeek.com

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                                medeek
                                last edited by 18 Jun 2017, 20:28

                                To allow for these same moment effects at the heel of a truss the TPI stipulates a heel reduction factor H[sub:2y81ofvw]R[/sub:2y81ofvw] = 0.85 - 0.05(12tanθ -2.0) Sec. 8.3.2.2. I'm going to assume this is an empirical formula developed over years of testing and experience. However, for all non-heel joints this reduction factor is 1.0, which makes sense for an MPC truss but maybe not for a WGC truss, where moments at the joints are going to be larger due to the rigidity of the connection.

                                In the TPI 1-2014 commentary there is some good discussion on combined axial and moment loading scenarios. Equation E C8.7-1 approaches this problem by converting the moment into an equivalent tension force: Teq = 6M/d.

                                The logic behind this is to start with the bending stress and multiply it with the cross sectional area of the plates: (1) T[sub:2y81ofvw]eq[/sub:2y81ofvw] = f[sub:2y81ofvw]b[/sub:2y81ofvw] x 2dt

                                Where: f[sub:2y81ofvw]b[/sub:2y81ofvw] = M/s and S = 2(td[sup:2y81ofvw]2[/sup:2y81ofvw]/6)

                                Substituting into equation (1) yields the 6M/d expression.

                                The commentary notes that this method has proven to be conservative (which I like) in most situations however they have since supplanted it with a more complicated and accurate approach.

                                For analysis of the tensile capacity of the actual gusset plates (plywood or OSB), tension check, this addition of an equivalent tensile force seems to make sense to me.

                                T[sub:2y81ofvw]tot[/sub:2y81ofvw] = T[sub:2y81ofvw]axial[/sub:2y81ofvw] + T[sub:2y81ofvw]eq[/sub:2y81ofvw]

                                This is essentially the same as equation 3.9-1 in the NDS and can be written in this form:

                                The applied stress would then be: T/2td + 6M/2td[sup:2y81ofvw]2[/sup:2y81ofvw] which must be less than Ft' the allowable tensile stress of the plywood.

                                With the analysis of the fasteners (nails) one could probably use a simplified approach like this or a more complicated nail group analysis like I've used in calculating portal frames.

                                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                Medeek Engineering Inc
                                design.medeek.com

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                                  medeek
                                  last edited by 18 Jun 2017, 20:31

                                  With the nail group calculation knowing the number of required nails, row spacing, nail spacing in a row one can come up with a rectangular approximation of the area filled with this group of nails.

                                  The force applied to the worst case nail would:

                                  F[sub:10dybyec]nail[/sub:10dybyec] = M[sub:10dybyec]joint[/sub:10dybyec]S[sub:10dybyec]x[/sub:10dybyec]S[sub:10dybyec]y[/sub:10dybyec]r[sub:10dybyec]max[/sub:10dybyec]/J

                                  Where the Polar Moment of the Nail Group is given by J = bh[sup:10dybyec]3[/sup:10dybyec]/12 + b[sup:10dybyec]3[/sup:10dybyec]h/12: b = r[sub:10dybyec]x[/sub:10dybyec] + s[sub:10dybyec]x[/sub:10dybyec], h = r[sub:10dybyec]y[/sub:10dybyec] + s[sub:10dybyec]y[/sub:10dybyec]

                                  and

                                  s[sub:10dybyec]x[/sub:10dybyec] = nail spacing in x-dir
                                  s[sub:10dybyec]y[/sub:10dybyec] = nail spacing in y-dir
                                  r[sub:10dybyec]max[/sub:10dybyec] = distance from centroid of rectangle to corner (furthest fastener)

                                  This won't be entirely accurate since the fasteners will probably not form a perfect rectangle but it should be reasonably close.

                                  Then one can add this worst case nail force to the average force on the nails from an axial member load (conservative) and come up with the combined load on the worst case fastener.

                                  This becomes an iterative process:

                                  Step 1: Compute the number of fasteners for only the tensile load.
                                  Step 2: Given the number of fasteners and fastener group geometry from Step 1 then calculate the load on the worst case fastener in the group.
                                  Step 3: Add the value in Step 2 to average value from Step 1 and check against the allowable for the fastener. If it exceeds the allowable then add a fastener and repeat the computation of the average fastener load due to tensile load only and the load due to the moments, repeat until it passes.

                                  It's no wonder that the truss companies have all of this stuff programmed. Technically this needs to be done for each joint at each load case, since load reversals may turn a compression loaded joint into a tension joint and vice versa, and the moments will be different for each load case.

                                  As you can see engineering a truss (WGC or MPC) is no trivial matter.

                                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                  Medeek Engineering Inc
                                  design.medeek.com

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                                    medeek
                                    last edited by 18 Jun 2017, 21:17

                                    I next want to turn my attention to mid-panel splices:

                                    http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su238_800.jpg

                                    Nothing to exciting going on with this bottom chord splice, the splice will be loaded in tension with a moment, the same methods developed previously would apply.

                                    In the case that the OSB or Plywood doesn't have enough strength for the combined axial + moment load then a vertical extension like what is shown could be improvised. This will not only increase the moment capacity of the gusset plate(s) but also the tensile strength. Note, that the number of fasteners into each bottom chord is not modified or decreased by the vertical extension of the gusset plate.

                                    To be conservative I would not consider the 2x4 insert in the calculations of the updated tensile or moment strength of the gusset plate(s) even though it will contribute some unspecified amount. The filler block is primarily to secure the protruding gusset plates and to prevent them from buckling out-of-plane. To that end I don't feel that specifying the number of fasteners is overly critical. A reasonable amount of fasteners and some glue will create a cohesive unit.

                                    In the case of top chord splice with the members being in compression the previous equation would dictate using a force that is 1/2 the compressive force, this would seem reasonably conservative but other load cases that could potentially load the splice in tension should also be investigated and compared. Again, any moments at the splice would also factor into the gusset plate sizing and fastener quantities.

                                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                                    design.medeek.com

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                                      medeek
                                      last edited by 18 Jun 2017, 21:39

                                      The member calcs for a WGC truss will be very similar to an mpc truss except that the matrix analysis model will have rigid joints instead of pin joints. This will introduce some minor bending into the internal webs but nothing significant since these member are not being loaded along their spans. The deflection of the truss should probably improve slightly with its higher rigidity.

                                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                                      design.medeek.com

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                                        medeek
                                        last edited by 20 Jun 2017, 15:00

                                        Spent some time Sunday night and yesterday evening working on the stepdown hip truss set. Given the shear number of trusses involved in one of the these assemblies I'm figuring it will be the rest of the week before I will see the light at the end of the tunnel, but progress is steady.

                                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                                        design.medeek.com

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                                          medeek
                                          last edited by 22 Jun 2017, 08:03

                                          The stepdown hip truss set is mostly finished. I probably have a couple more days of work setting up raised heels, internal web algorithms, and advanced options.

                                          http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su239_800.jpg

                                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                                          design.medeek.com

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