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    • C Offline
      CMS 5PS
      last edited by

      My spacing issue is using a regular bounded text box, and formatting using the list tab under text style. Inserting a properly formatted rtf file is losing the formatting in the insertion.

      I haven't played with the table function much. Maybe that's the answer, if I can hide the grid lines and resize the cells.

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      • C Offline
        CMS 5PS
        last edited by

        And maybe my rtf file issue is really an openoffice issue. The formatting for numbered lists is frustrating there as well.

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        • Dave RD Offline
          Dave R
          last edited by

          Maybe it is an Open Office thing. I use LibreOffice and regularly make lists with tab separated columns. No problem with formatting.

          It might be that you'd have better luck if you insert your bullet glyph as a character instead of using the Bullets tool.

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          • C Offline
            CMS 5PS
            last edited by

            It's actually numbers that I am having the space issue with. I have just noticed that bullets have the same issue.

            I appreciate your help. I'll keep playing with it and maybe check out LibreOffice to see if I can make that a part of my process.

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            • C Offline
              CMS 5PS
              last edited by

              Just an update: I tried the rtf import from LibreOffice, and it works much better. Thanks!

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              • Dave RD Offline
                Dave R
                last edited by

                Excellent!

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                • RichardR Offline
                  Richard
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                  I find it SO MUCH easier to just build lists in LayOut using an array of Text Boxes!

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                  • brettsichellodesignB Offline
                    brettsichellodesign
                    last edited by

                    Great drawing Richard! How did you do the drop shadows on trees and arrows?

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                    • RichardR Offline
                      Richard
                      last edited by

                      Thanks mate, to add the shadows I dragged the PDF from LayOut into Indesign!

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                      • Dave RD Offline
                        Dave R
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                        Richard, I really like that look. Excellent job.

                        I don't know InDesign very well. How hard is it to create those shadows from the PDF?

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                        • RichardR Offline
                          Richard
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                          @dave r said:

                          Richard, I really like that look. Excellent job.

                          I don't know InDesign very well. How hard is it to create those shadows from the PDF?

                          Dave, so simple!!!! Indesign is really intuitive.

                          Export PDF from layout with layers enabled > in Indesign drag the PDF onto a page the same size as the original > turned off all tree layers for the flat background > copy the PDF > paste in place > turned off all the background layers > turn on tree level 1 > add drop shadow > copy PDF > paste in place > turn off tree level 1 > turn on tree level 2 > repeat from level 3. > Export PDF.

                          If I make any changes to the Layout plan, I just re-export the base PDF and refresh the link in Indesign.

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                          • Dave RD Offline
                            Dave R
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                            Very interesting. Thanks for the explanation. Are the circles created in LO or in SU?

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                            • C Offline
                              CMS 5PS
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                              Beautiful drawing, Richard. I hope to be able to get to that point someday!

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                              • RichardR Offline
                                Richard
                                last edited by

                                @dave r said:

                                Very interesting. Thanks for the explanation. Are the circles created in LO or in SU?

                                Everything is from LO other than the shadows Dave!

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                                • bmikeB Offline
                                  bmike
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                                  That looks great...

                                  Couldn't you create the drop shadows in LO? Copy all the arrows to the side, shift them all, then force them behind the arrows, shade in a transparent color? Or use layers?

                                  I know that they aren't as pretty and fuzzy, but with layers its pretty easy.

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                                  • RichardR Offline
                                    Richard
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                                    @bmike said:

                                    That looks great...

                                    Couldn't you create the drop shadows in LO? Copy all the arrows to the side, shift them all, then force them behind the arrows, shade in a transparent color? Or use layers?

                                    I know that they aren't as pretty and fuzzy, but with layers its pretty easy.

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                                    For sure mate, I tried this in the past with floor plans - though the hard shadow is a bit harsh, plus it doesn't represent so well as the shadow cant be set as multiply like you can in photoshop or indesign. So in the end it all ends up a bit flat!

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