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    pipingguy
    last edited by 18 Feb 2017, 14:04

    Dragging a component from my custom library into a model often proves detrimental because i forget to convert it into a group. Can a custom library for groups only be considered?

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      Rich O Brien Moderator
      last edited by 18 Feb 2017, 16:06

      Why do you need it to be a group?

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        Dave R
        last edited by 18 Feb 2017, 16:14

        There is no option to make a library for groups. Even if you save a model as a group, when you import it into another SketchUp model.

        As Rich asks, why do you need to convert them to groups?

        By the way, thank you for another giving me another example for groups vs. components.

        Etaoin Shrdlu

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          pipingguy
          last edited by 18 Feb 2017, 21:45

          Rich - (i knew i would be asked this question) I bring a component into a model and make copies of it and place them in different locations as the model progresses. now i need to change something in the component - thinking it's alone, meanwhile, i've forgotten it has copies elsewhere. by the time i discover the blunder it's too difficult to backtrack. yes i know i could have made it unique, but this is how my workflow developed. i do wish the selection box that forms around the component would be a different color than a group's. that would stop me in my tracks. yes i know i could look at the entity inspector - but i find it time consuming.

          Dave R. - not sure what example you need from other post?

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            Dave R
            last edited by 18 Feb 2017, 22:10

            @pipingguy said:

            Dave R. - not sure what example you need from other post?

            Sorry. I wasn't referring to your other post.

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              Rich O Brien Moderator
              last edited by 18 Feb 2017, 23:45

              Groups only strength is their ability to isolate and categorise geometry.

              Under the hood they are Components for a brief moment when duplicated but lose that value as soon as you enter into one. But that's nerd speak at a programming level.

              I like groups. But only from an isolation and naming standpoint. In terms of efficiency its components.

              Dave nailed the issue. Consistency from the outset.

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                Box
                last edited by 19 Feb 2017, 01:19

                There is a plugin designed specifically to let you know when you are editing multiple components.
                http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=CoastalConcepts_EditFlag

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                  pipingguy
                  last edited by 20 Feb 2017, 13:35

                  My preference for converting groups to components at the load-in stage is due to resizing at least 85% of the time. i would then say, what is the difference between having a hundred different groups or a hundred unique components? but i actually lose my customized axis location when the conversion happens - which can sometimes be a problem. I wish Trimble could preserve the axis as an option. anyway, i must protect the need to prevent rogue components from unknowingly changing. Also, this subject may have been concerning for others since Box mentioned an extension that someone went through the trouble of generating. for sketchers using glue and cut-in features, i suppose components are a must. Another thing about components hiding in my model - if i combine several groups into one, and later resize the group not knowing one of the entities is actually a component, the component remains unchanged - and the repair work just cuts into my time.

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                    eneroth3
                    last edited by 16 Apr 2017, 17:42

                    I fail to understand why. If you can name something and but it in a catalog, e.g. a window or a car or door handle, then it is a component. If something only makes sense in a certain context, e.g. the slab of a specific floor in a specific building, then it's a group. I think it would only be confusing to blur the line even further.

                    My website: http://julia-christina-eneroth.se/

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