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    • pbacotP Offline
      pbacot
      last edited by

      I have a little building with a number of windows and doors in place. I need to stretch it now in length since the design has changed. When I move the end walls the doors and windows on some walls move erratically, sometimes flip over, and generally what work I have is messed up. I've seen this many times before. Has anyone solved this problem? I find this in other cases of adjusting a surface with glue to components.

      I just did a work around by copying--moving the end walls, erasing the original end walls and repairing all the side walls, both ends of the building inside and out. Not a lot of work for this little building but it would be nice to resize a building and not have to go into such detail to repair.

      MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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      • R Offline
        rv1974
        last edited by

        known bug..
        1.group and cut all your windows, adjust your wall and paste win group back in place.
        2.alternatively use extrude line tool\stretch by area\pushpull with Cntrl-
        those preserve win placements.
        3.or, you could isolate 'must be kept' area with simple rectangle.

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        • BoxB Offline
          Box
          last edited by

          Could one of you guys upload a model where this happens, I'm unable to reproduce it.

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          • R Offline
            rv1974
            last edited by

            MOVE any edge of the one-face wall with glued windows. they will jump-
            inevitable like death and taxes.

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            • BoxB Offline
              Box
              last edited by

              I still say I can't reproduce this.
              For me Everything stays where it should be unless you move the wall off axis and then they move, but predictably.

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              • pbacotP Offline
                pbacot
                last edited by

                Thanks rv -- i did try Fredoscale with no luck. Will look at the plugins you noted.

                I'll make a model for you Box.

                MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                • R Offline
                  rv1974
                  last edited by

                  move upper edge in z direction.
                  I amused to hear you never saw this bug. I guess you are not arch-viz monkey


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                  • BoxB Offline
                    Box
                    last edited by

                    I'm still not seeing a problem.


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                    • R Offline
                      rv1974
                      last edited by

                      you managed to move straightly by Z from the start which is pretty tricky, and didn't made the first click upon the upper edge.


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                      • R Offline
                        rv1974
                        last edited by

                        I guess I found some so-so workaround. One needs to select the edge then select move command, stroke the cursor over some vertical edge a couple of times, and only then click-and-drag (with shift) vertically. It is very unreliable still.

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                        • Dave RD Offline
                          Dave R
                          last edited by

                          Maybe just pre-selecting the edge?

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                          • R Offline
                            rv1974
                            last edited by

                            I'm on 2016,and it was bugged in all earlier versions
                            And besides, your two last gifs demonstrate you have the same issue but you ask me as if you are bug free.

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                            • BoxB Offline
                              Box
                              last edited by

                              I really really can't find any bug.


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                              • R Offline
                                rv1974
                                last edited by

                                Donno, all I can say it was always misbehaved this way (lots of PCs, multiple versions)


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                                • pbacotP Offline
                                  pbacot
                                  last edited by

                                  Dave for me it doesn't matter what method is used. Pre-selection and move (usual method) or push-pull, Fredoscale stretch, move multiple elements or one edge. Note that I was moving a whole end of a building in my recent work, but I also tried just one wall surface making it shorter.

                                  This morning in the same file --original version before I did the change, it doesn't happen in any of the same instances. One of those things. Maybe you just need to wait a day (or restart).

                                  Maybe it has to do with some inaccuracy but now I can contort the walls and the windows stay glued in place within reason, whereas in a supposedly straight wall yesterday, some would move a little, some move right off the wall (in plane) and some flip upside down and move a lot etc, and I guess some stayed put.

                                  MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                    rv1974
                                    last edited by

                                    Working in isometric is way more effective than cg perspective-
                                    In this was you don't loose the sense of parallelism\size and have ability to neutralize the clipping bug. 'No orbiting'? Could you describe pls?

                                    And besides axo\perspective mode have no inflience on the topic's issue- glued things jump in both.

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                                      driven
                                      last edited by

                                      @rv1974, do you always 'model' in 'Parallel Projection'?

                                      that can to cause weird outcomes unless using 'Standard Views' i.e. no orbiting...

                                      Peter, I assuming you don't...

                                      john

                                      learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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