Layout move tool
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I just went and tried this again. I have two viewports of model on a page. One is a side view of a car wash layout and the other is a top view. I want to align the equipment in the 2 viewports. I just need to scale the side view a little and it will be fine. I click on one of the corners and drag and with enough patience I can get it aligned properly. What I have tried to do on several occasions is the click on one of the corners of the side view. The VCB shows me the scale factor for both horizontal and vertical scaling of the viewport. I would like to be able to type in the scale factor but as soon as I let go of the mouse the VCB goes back to Measurement and when I type in the scaling factor I get an error message that the measurement is invalid.
I was trying to type in something like 0.95,0.90 but get the error. I do not have screen capture software that would allow me to capture it and show you what is happening.
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If the scenes for your top and elevation views are with the camera set to Parallel Projection, just set the scale for the viewports the same in the SketchUp inspector. Then you'll be able to align the views easily. There's no need to worry about the borders of the viewports.
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@jql said:
We've had this discussion before Richard. From the literally hundreds of people I introduced to Sketchup, none found LO move tool intuitive.
We certainly have and probably will again! Im not saying that the move tool couldn't function better, trying to marquee select a bunch of objects is a serious pain in the bum if you are trying to start on top of something! It just moves the background object GRRRRRRR!
Holding CTRL down whole time to copy, Grrrr!
Though the thing that shines for me, the scaling of objects, copy on scale or rotate, these are things are winners over SU's function. I've never worked out why SU allows you to copy with the move tool but not copy whilst rotating with the move tool!
And then there is the dongle thingy, I seriously love it!! Particularly whilst the zoom factor in Layout is so limited!
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Obviously have not been making myself clear.
In this example I have 2 scenes as mentioned before. I need to rescale the size of the viewport for the side view so that the content (the equipment) of the viewport aligns with the content of the top view viewport (as indicated by the purple arrows). I do it all the time by dragging the edges of the top viewport but sometimes Layout gets a little touchy. I would like to key in the scaling factors for the top viewport until I get the equipment to align. I am not trying to scale the content of the viewport.Hope this makes it a little clearer of what I am trying to do and why I want to be able to key in the scaling values. As I said every time I have tried, as soon as I select an edge or corner and then let go of the mouse button, the VCB changes from the Scale to Measurement.
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So did you try just typing in a scale factor anyway? It does work.
Are both drawings at the same scale? I guess I don't understand why you wouldn't set the drawing scale the same in both views. Then the elements in the drawing would align.
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Yes, everything is at the same scale.
Because of the text and dimension (some not showing in the screen shot) I have to first adjust the top view. The at the requires me to make minor scaling adjustments to get the equipment to align. In your animation you enter just one number which is then used to scale bit width and height. Sine I only have to make very minor adjustments I need to specify a factor for both directions. If I try to type something like .98,.95 I get the error message.
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Again, I don't understand why you aren't scaling the view in the Sketchup inspector but I guess this is the way you want to go. Too much work for me the way you are doing it.
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I don't understand where you are having the problem, here it is with two very different scale factors.
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@Box that is exactly what I did and got the error message. I will try again in the morning. Feeling a little ill this evening. This really should be pretty straight forward.
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ntxdave/all
I read through all of the above.......and I could have missed it, but do you have the "maintain scale on resize" ticked?Charlie
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Well guys, I finally got it to work. Was making a very simple mistake. I had to grab hold of a corner and drag it first. Then I could key in the scaling factors.
Turns out the real key is activating the scale tool. Then I can mess around multiple times until I get it how I want it.
As I saw somewhere else, since Layout is only available to SketchUp Pro users, it would be good if all of the tools for manipulating objects was the same in both apps.
Thanks for all of the feedback.......I really appreciate it and glad I finally figured out what I was doing wrong. It is going to be useful in the future. I can be more precise than dragging.
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So I'm labelling up a drawing in Layout, and I'm finding I'm unable to grab layout elements like lines accurately on snapping on them so I know they are then snapping to the exact point on the viewport.
I've got Object Snap on, Grid Snap off. I have standard datum and building grid labels from default scrapbook (and Sonder's templates) but when I drag them, I don't seem to get any inference snap on the object. As said, its not the destination, it is knowing I am dragging the object from an exact point or line on that object.
Any help please?
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Can you share the LO file so I can see what you've got going on? If you don't want to make it public, send it by PM.
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The file size is too big to post, I have PMd you, but here is a screen shot. When I go to drag that SLAB datum object, I don't get any kind of handle or indication I am picking up the actual line. I have drawn a line off the slab for a guide that I was then going to delete. The move tool will snap to that, but it won't snap to the object I am picking up.
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Are you trying to snap to the section cut edge? If so, you can't. The section cut edges are not snap-able. If you create a group from slice and show its edges or use TIG's Add Section Cut Face with edges set to be visible, you should be able to snap to the edge.
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Thanks Dave,
Sorted, thank for talking me through it. A simple case of that little handle snap tool being in the right spot, now I can grip away. Amazing how the smallest thing can give you the biggest headache.
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