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    "False Maria" robot from 1927 silent film "Metropolis"

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    • JQLJ Offline
      JQL
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      @hellnbak said:

      Now, if someone can explain to me why I bothered explaining all that, I would really appreciate it πŸ˜†

      Couldn't explain it, but can understand...

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      • DanielD Offline
        Daniel
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        Rotwang, the robot's inventor, refers to it a maschinenmensch, which translates to "machine-human." A lot of people (myself included) probably find "Maria" easier to remember and pronounce. It's been ages since I saw the film is school - you make me want to see it again.

        Are you going to texture it?

        My avatar is an anachronism.

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        • D Offline
          dtrarch
          last edited by

          Hellnback

          MY copy of the film has music (later version re-created and patched)
          An amazing vocal by Pat Benatar.
          PM me for source if you want.
          Any chance for your super model to be available.?
          I will beg.

          dtr

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          • hellnbakH Offline
            hellnbak
            last edited by

            Sorry, I've been super busy, will post some more as soon as possible.

            "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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            • omiKronO Offline
              omiKron
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              Fascinating. I really like the designs of that age... 1920's to 1940's. It's been a big impact to the people of that times, such a concept, never seen before. Thus, some parts of those concepts are surrounding us atm.

              amazing modeling, looks a bit b/w clay model.

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              • RichardR Offline
                Richard
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                Wow! TOTALLY impressed. Weirdly enough I recently did a logo for a company who used the movie title as part of their company name!


                METROPOLIS_3.jpg

                [BUILTBRAND.COM.AU](http://builtbrand.com.au/)

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                • hellnbakH Offline
                  hellnbak
                  last edited by

                  Thanks, Richard.

                  I've done some more work on her since my last post, been meaning to post some photos.

                  Nice logo πŸ‘

                  "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                  • ken28875K Offline
                    ken28875
                    last edited by

                    Awesome model, Steve! πŸ‘ πŸ‘

                    Cheers!

                    _KN

                    Follow Your Dreams.

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                    • ric323R Offline
                      ric323
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                      @hellnbak said:

                      ...
                      Was going to include a bunch of background stuff but that seems to bore some people. I might include some stuff later on, as the model progresses.

                      +1 for more background! πŸ˜„

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                      • hellnbakH Offline
                        hellnbak
                        last edited by

                        Much appreciated, Ken.

                        @ric323 said:

                        @hellnbak said:

                        ...
                        Was going to include a bunch of background stuff but that seems to bore some people. I might include some stuff later on, as the model progresses.

                        +1 for more background! πŸ˜„

                        Thanks Richard. Yeah, I will include some background stuff eventually. Lots of good info to pass along.

                        You're really using a pre-6 version of SU? Just curious as to why.

                        Anyhow, been playing around with this, thought I would post a few photos.

                        First, the robot on her "chair".
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                        Difficult in the respect that few shots show it, and of those that do the vast majority of them are from a distance and show very little useable detail.
                        An interesting fact -- The seat of the chair was set at angle because the "suit" did not allow Ms Helm to sit all the way down. But even with that an apparatus had to be rigged so that someone pulling on a lever behind the chair slowly tilted the seat forward until she could stand on her own.

                        Also took a stab at Maria on the lab table, just prior to her 'essence' being transferred to the robot
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                        Still a lot to do, about 600 miles of cable and wiring to add, a lot of electronic doo-dads, this, that and 'tother. Gonna try to make the face look like Brigitte Helm, now that should be fun.

                        Both of these scenes proved very frustraing because of SU's inability to work realistically with 'glass' or transparent surfaces. Go below a certain amount of transparency and no shadows are cast or received, along with other problems. Drove me nuts, finally just gave up.

                        So much to do, so little time.

                        "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                        • pbacotP Offline
                          pbacot
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                          Wow. Did you model Maria too? This is wild. No one gets such results from pure SketchUp rendering.

                          MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                          • Mike AmosM Offline
                            Mike Amos
                            last edited by

                            Steve definitely DOES get those sketchup results, the question is how.......

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                            • pbacotP Offline
                              pbacot
                              last edited by

                              Came across this on another forum. Totally forgot... What a great subject and execution. Just really inspiring. I would like to see the geometry.

                              MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                              • HornOxxH Offline
                                HornOxx
                                last edited by

                                I missed this contribution in 2016, so thanks for digging out this great work πŸ‘ πŸ‘

                                @pbacot said:

                                ...I would like to see the geometry.
                                Yes!

                                never trust a skinny cook

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                                • Bryan KB Offline
                                  Bryan K
                                  last edited by

                                  Yeah, that is one excellent model.

                                  See my portfolio at https://delphiscousin.blogspot.com/

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                                  • hellnbakH Offline
                                    hellnbak
                                    last edited by

                                    Wow, this is so weird - hadn't thought about this model for a long time, then just a couple of days ago I came across it and have been working on it since then. Then I received an email saying that someone had replied to this topic, after more than four years. Really strange.

                                    Anyhow, thanks for the nice words, much appreciated as always.

                                    First off, in reply to pbacot's question from back in 2016
                                    @pbacot said:

                                    Did you model Maria too?

                                    No, it was a model that I got from the warehouse. Had to heavily modify her, broke her neck, her arms at the shoulders, elbow and wrists, and her legs at the knees and ankles. (I know, it sounds like I need some serious therapy, 😲 and I probably do, for a number of reasons). All in all, it was probably more trouble than just making her from scratch.

                                    I will post some shots of the geometry later this morning.

                                    Been working on her face, still cannot get it right. Very frustrating. I actually did start work on a full-size bust of her to hopefully help me with this, but set it aside upstairs for a while and then discovered that it had fallen off the table and had separated from the armature in a number of pieces (a homebuilt armature, not as stable as it should have been). There's just no way to get something like that back on the armature, so I threw in the towel on that little project. Very disappointing.

                                    I'm looking forward to posting some of the background on Metropolis, this movie has such an unbelievable history.

                                    "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                                    • hellnbakH Offline
                                      hellnbak
                                      last edited by

                                      Sorry, had to get some sleep. Like a lot of people nowdays, my sleep schedule is pretty much out the window, so I sleep when I can.

                                      Anyhow, here are some shots showing the geometry.

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                                      some closer shots showing the head, since it shows up as pretty much a black blob in the full figure shots.
                                      2020-06-03_181340.png
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                                      If anyone would like some closer shots of some of the model, just let me know.

                                      "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                                      • Bryan KB Offline
                                        Bryan K
                                        last edited by

                                        Incredible geometry. Thanks for the wire frame close ups!

                                        That would cripple my computer.

                                        See my portfolio at https://delphiscousin.blogspot.com/

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                                        • tuna1957T Offline
                                          tuna1957
                                          last edited by

                                          hellinbak , This is just freaking epic !!!!! Can't think of how many times of wondered about "Maria" since your first posted images. Glad your back with her. πŸ‘ πŸ‘ πŸ‘

                                          I'm a HUGE fan of the old movies. Found "Metropolis" on DVD last year. Have watched it innumerable times. The results they were able to achieve with the technology of the era is astounding.

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                                          • Bryan KB Offline
                                            Bryan K
                                            last edited by

                                            A movie way ahead of its time, tuna.

                                            Have you also seen Shape of Things To Come? Another movie ahead of its time.

                                            See my portfolio at https://delphiscousin.blogspot.com/

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