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    [Plugin] Dimension management tools

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    • chriC Offline
      chri
      last edited by

      magnificent work
      for the workflow in LAYOUT

      If we add the the next plugins, it's became wonderful to allow a very quick update views of all scenes in openoffice

      Add Named Scene / mirale999
      http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=41787
      SceneExporter / rick wilson
      http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=11173

      Chri
      πŸ‘ πŸ‘ πŸ‘


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      • chriC Offline
        chri
        last edited by

        hi

        Please take a look on the next picture to make a manual update in openoffice .

        bye
        Chri


        update.png

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        • irwanwrI Offline
          irwanwr
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          Thank you very very much πŸ˜„

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            Fromatron
            last edited by

            Thought that this would also alter the geometery (doesn't...right?). However, I am extremely glad that I stumbled upon this, it's insanely useful. Never thought i would need it until I got it.

            I have to confess that I've never actually understood the layers bit in SU. Thanks to this plugin I do now; way cool!

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              gnlmrc60b22f205v
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              Very useful plugin, would be perfect if the tool "Dimensions to Layer", creating a new layer, write on the "Name for the New Layer" window a default name, for example "DIM-TEXT", so, if I wont I can change it, but I don't have to write it every time.
              Please, can you take me the rb file text modification to obtain this?

              Thank you very much anyway for the plugin.

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                slbaumgartner
                last edited by

                @gnlmrc60b22f205v said:

                Very useful plugin, would be perfect if the tool "Dimensions to Layer", creating a new layer, write on the "Name for the New Layer" window a default name, for example "DIM-TEXT", so, if I wont I can change it, but I don't have to write it every time.
                Please, can you take me the rb file text modification to obtain this?

                Thank you very much anyway for the plugin.

                You are welcome!

                To make the change you describe, you need to modify line 147 of the Ruby to be

                
                      new_layer_name_arr = UI.inputbox ["Name for New Layer"], ["DIM-TEXT"]
                
                

                That is, add the part ',["DIM-TEXT"]' to the end of the existing line. That makes "DIM_TEXT" the default value for the input.

                Steve

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                • romboutR Offline
                  rombout
                  last edited by

                  It doesnt seem to work properly if you use dimensions within groups and components. I selects only the dimension in the 'main' model. What workflow should i use to make dimensions inside groups and components

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                    slbaumgartner
                    last edited by

                    As written, the plugin does not search for dimensions inside groups or components.

                    The main justification is that when a dimension is nested inside a group or component it, like other nested geometry, should be left on layer0. Putting nested entities onto other layers can lead to confusing conflicts between the visibility of the layer of the nested entity and the visibility of the layer of the container. So, my plugin isn't really suited or necessary in a workflow that nests dimensions inside groups or components. Make the group or component's layer not visible, and its contents will disappear with it.

                    But, in addition, it is not necessary to nest dimensions inside a group or component to make them work. SketchUp dimensions will associate with entities inside a group or component without themselves being in that group or component. Used that way, my plugin lets you put all the dimensions of a particular scene onto their own layer, which is hidden on all except that scene. You can make the dimensions of multiple entities not visible without having to put all those entities onto the same layer themselves.

                    All that aside, if there is enough demand to support a different workflow I would consider reworking the plugin.

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                    • JClementsJ Offline
                      JClements
                      last edited by

                      Sometimes, workflow could involve modeling different parts as separate models then inserting them or copying-and-pasting them into a new file. In this situation if the separate models have dimensions then the dimensions would become nested. I would think this not to be an uncommon practice, particularly when more than one person is contributing geometry to a project.

                      I think a checkbox option to act on all nested dimensions inside a component or group or, if not in a nested element, the entire model would be a good thing.

                      John | Illustrator | Beaverton, Oregon

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                        slbaumgartner
                        last edited by

                        John,

                        I see your point. Let me ponder a while how best to deal with it!

                        Thanks
                        Steve

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                          slbaumgartner
                          last edited by

                          Some followup questions about the desired functionality:

                          Since the dimensions are nested inside a component as a side-effect of importing the submodel, should they be exported back to the model context as well as placed on a layer? Couldn't you just explode the new component since it wasn't really that way in the submodel (or was it)? I'm worrying about the classic confusion over nested contents on layers other than layer0.

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                          • JClementsJ Offline
                            JClements
                            last edited by

                            My first impulse is to manage the dimensions just via layer manager that way if you export the component or cut and paste, the layer goes with it.

                            Placing the dimension outside of their context could result in all sort of unwanted issues.

                            John | Illustrator | Beaverton, Oregon

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                              slbaumgartner
                              last edited by

                              Please give the attached a try and see if (a) it does what you need, and (b) there are bugs.

                              Thanks
                              Steve


                              dimension_utilities.rbz

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                                chrisik
                                last edited by

                                Thank you very much for this plugin, I use it very often.
                                Is it possible to set the current scene name automatically as the default layer name when you create a new layser? Which modifications to the rb file have to be made?

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                                  chrisik
                                  last edited by

                                  Sorry but i can't install the plugin. After i select "install extension..." in the system preferences menu and select the plugin, a window pops up: "Unable to install this Extension. Sketchup was unable to install the Extension you have chosen for some unknown reason. Consult your Extension's documentation for additional help." ?

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                                    @chrisik said:

                                    Sorry but i can't install the plugin. After i select "install extension..." in the system preferences menu and select the plugin, a window pops up: "Unable to install this Extension. Sketchup was unable to install the Extension you have chosen for some unknown reason. Consult your Extension's documentation for additional help." ?
                                    Which version of the RBZ are you trying to install ?
                                    The one one post ago ??
                                    Or another ???

                                    For me that RBZ downloads fine, and installs, and it works... πŸ˜•

                                    TIG

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                                      slbaumgartner
                                      last edited by

                                      I may have botched the zip! Will look into it and get back shortly. Sorry about that...

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                                      • S Offline
                                        slbaumgartner
                                        last edited by

                                        Not sure what I did wrong before, but this new one works on my system:


                                        dimension_utilities.rbz

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                                          slbaumgartner
                                          last edited by

                                          Give the following a try and let me know if there are problems. This version combines the nested logic requested previously with this change to the default new layer naming. To avoid confusion, it appends " dims" to the name of the current scene. If there are no scenes or the current scene is not named, it will revert to the previous default of "DIM_TEXT".

                                          One issue I know about is that the UI.inputbox may truncate the strings it displays - they are correct but the dialog doesn't expand to show them. This is a known bug in inputbox that I can't fix except with a rewrite to use a different input technique.

                                          [edit] The rbz I uploaded earlier was somehow damaged. Please use the one in my later post.

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                                            chrisik
                                            last edited by

                                            ok. it works. While installing the windows "Unable to install this Extension..." still pops up but the plugin works anyway. Many thanks for your changes.

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