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    Dave R
    last edited by 13 Apr 2015, 18:01

    But do you get any messages in the Ruby Console when you try to run the operation with the plugin and it doesn't work?

    Why are you switching back and forth between SU2015 and SU2014?

    Etaoin Shrdlu

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      Blastfurnace
      last edited by 13 Apr 2015, 18:07

      @dave r said:

      But do you get any messages in the console when you try to run the operation with the plugin and it doesn't work?

      Why are you switching back and forth between SU2015 and SU2014?

      I only switched to SU2014, as an experiment, to see if it (the plugin) would work in 2014. Which it did. Until I loaded that model. Now it will no longer work in 2014. Even when I start SU to a blank default template

      No I do not get any messages in the Ruby Window when I run the plugin. or at any time while the plugin is being asked to Insert an object but doesn't.

      I am sorry if I am missing something basic. I have been using this for a long time and now something has gone haywire.

      Thank you for your time. I REALLY appreciate it.

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        TIG Moderator
        last edited by 13 Apr 2015, 18:48

        Find the RB file in the Plugins folder which loads this tool...
        I'm not sure what it's called, because this Plugin is NOT hosted on the SCF PluginStore...
        Then use this in the Ruby Console:
        load "name_of_that_file.rb"
        Any error messages ?

        TIG

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          driven
          last edited by 13 Apr 2015, 18:52

          ok...

          removed the pg_Marker_Field that was a fair distance from origin, and then I could 'insert' a 6"" tube against a flange...

          seems to be the drawing, although I get lots of js errors from the plugin looking for advertisements...

          they may be contributing...
          john

          learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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            TIG Moderator
            last edited by 13 Apr 2015, 18:55

            @driven said:

            ok...

            removed the pg_Marker_Field that was a fair distance from origin, and then I could 'insert' a 6"" tube against a flange...

            seems to be the drawing, although I get lots of js errors from the plugin looking for advertisements...

            they may be contributing...
            john
            Yer wot ?
            ๐Ÿ˜•

            TIG

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              driven
              last edited by 13 Apr 2015, 19:05

              @tig said:

              Yer wot ?
              :?

              sorry, I loaded his model, and ran the plugin and it would notinsert the selected item at my preselected location...
              I tried some basic objects with 'Outliner' open, and found them 'inserted' at a position ocupied by a locked maker, after deleting that, I could insert the item in my chosen position...

              having said that, I get 60 > 80 js errors

              Blocked a frame with origin "http://googleads.g.doubleclick.net" from accessing a frame with origin "http://sketchup.engineeringtoolbox.com". Protocols, domains, and ports must match.
              

              for every item I navigate to...

              john

              learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                Blastfurnace
                last edited by 13 Apr 2015, 19:30

                @tig said:

                Find the RB file in the Plugins folder which loads this tool...
                I'm not sure what it's called, because this Plugin is NOT hosted on the SCF PluginStore...
                Then use this in the Ruby Console:
                load "name_of_that_file.rb"
                Any error messages ?

                No error message. Just returned True

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                  Blastfurnace
                  last edited by 13 Apr 2015, 19:36

                  @driven said:

                  @tig said:

                  Yer wot ?
                  ๐Ÿ˜•

                  sorry, I loaded his model, and ran the plugin and it would notinsert the selected item at my preselected location...
                  I tried some basic objects with 'Outliner' open, and found them 'inserted' at a position ocupied by a locked maker, after deleting that, I could insert the item in my chosen position...

                  having said that, I get 60 > 80 js errors

                  Blocked a frame with origin "http://googleads.g.doubleclick.net" from accessing a frame with origin "http://sketchup.engineeringtoolbox.com". Protocols, domains, and ports must match.
                  

                  for every item I navigate to...

                  john

                  The locked marker is created by the point gadget plugin which imports points via CSV. That plugin is made by Chris Dizon from Trimble. The marker is at the original Origin of 0,0,0 which is the default location for inserted objects using the Engineering toolbox plugin.

                  If you have an object selected the tool box plugin normally inserts at that location and orienatation.

                  The axes you see in that model was moved to match the straight line that was generated by the shots from the Trimble Total Station I use at work.
                  

                  I got the plugin from http://sketchup.engineeringtoolbox.com/ I've been using it for nearly two years.

                  Thanks!

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                    Blastfurnace
                    last edited by 13 Apr 2015, 19:42

                    Yes it is something in the drawing causing the issue but why after it causes the issue does the plugin refuse to work in ANY SU drawing? no amount of shutting down or opening blank drawings will make it work after it fails in that drawing.
                    And Ruby sits there quiet as can be.

                    gotta be something blocking the javascript command from getting out. I dunno. Maybe I'm crazy.
                    
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                      driven
                      last edited by 13 Apr 2015, 20:01

                      if you pull the dialog wider to expose the right colum it has an item...

                      @unknownuser said:

                      Occasionally Problems in Windows
                      Due to the way Internet Explorer (used by Sketchup in the Web Dialoges) handles its cache there may be occasionally scripting problems in Windows.
                      Just reload the window - use F5 - to refresh the cache.

                      have you tried that?
                      john

                      learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                        driven
                        last edited by 13 Apr 2015, 20:23

                        another option is to try and find where it's failing...

                        the copyright on the script allows us to modify it, so we can add some detection...

                        # Copyright 2008, Engineering ToolBox
                        
                        # This software is provided as a part of the Engineering Toolbox Google Sketchup
                        # application.
                        
                        # Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software for
                        # any purpose and without fee is hereby granted, provided that the above
                        # copyright notice appear in all copies.
                        
                        # THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS" AND WITHOUT ANY EXPRESS OR
                        # IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION, THE IMPLIED
                        # WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
                        #-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                        
                        require 'sketchup.rb'
                        
                        #-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                        module EngineeringtoolboxToolsDialog
                          def EngineeringtoolboxToolsDialog.create_dialog
                            dlg = UI;;WebDialog.new("Engineering ToolBox", true, "", 1000, 800, 150, 150, true);
                            dlg.allow_actions_from_host "engineeringtoolbox.com"
                            dlg.set_url "http://sketchup.engineeringtoolbox.com/"
                            dlg.show
                        
                            dlg.add_action_callback("insert") {|d,p|
                            p p  # this is all I'm adding... open 'Ruby Panel' then EngToolbox...
                        	  eval(p)
                            }
                          end
                        end
                        
                        
                        
                        if( not file_loaded?("engineeringtoolbox.rb") )
                            add_separator_to_menu("Plugins")
                            UI.menu("Plugin").add_item("Engineering ToolBox") { EngineeringtoolboxToolsDialog.create_dialog }
                        
                        end
                        
                        #-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                        file_loaded("engineeringtoolbox.rb")
                        

                        either add the line or swap in the ruby file replace existing one with this...

                        then open 'Ruby Console' before testing, and the insert commands should be listed...

                        john

                        learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                          Blastfurnace
                          last edited by 14 Apr 2015, 12:11

                          Thanks for your effort sir. You have gone above and beyond.
                          I have removed SU2014 its installation was an experiment.
                          I have removed the plugin and installed it with your modifications.
                          I open Ruby Console and then try the plug in.
                          Ruby Console shows nothing and plug in still refuses to "Insert"

                          I have meetings all morning. So I am going to let the IT guys continue at it from the aspect of javascript command being blocked..

                          Very Frustrated but thanks again for everything.

                          M

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                          • D Offline
                            driven
                            last edited by 29 Apr 2015, 12:24

                            Mark, did you get this sorted out?
                            others are having similar issues and a known solution would be handy...
                            john

                            learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                              Blastfurnace
                              last edited by 30 Apr 2015, 17:41

                              When I try to "insert" and it refuses to insert I hit F5 right then, and then click "insert" again and it seems to work. It was weird. It seemed like it would do OK until I tried to insert a flange from the site. After a Flange was attempted it would quit working. At least that is how it seemed to me.

                              My advice would be try the F5 then click "Insert" again.

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                                Aerilius
                                last edited by 3 May 2015, 10:29

                                Although it appears to be a problem with odd browser behavior (caching, reload?), potential issues in the Ruby code are undetectable and therefore undebuggable because a SketchUp action_callback does not throw errors.
                                Therefore the execution of Ruby code should be wrapped in something like:

                                
                                begin
                                  # execution of ruby code
                                rescue Exception => e
                                  puts e.message
                                  puts e.backtrace
                                end
                                
                                

                                Also it adds every elementary operation to the undo stack. When clicking once "insert!", it would be more user friendly to only add one command to the undo stack. This can be achieved by wrapping everything in an operation (either on client side in the action_callback, or in the executed Ruby code):

                                
                                begin
                                  model.start_operation("operation name")
                                  # execution of ruby code
                                  model.commit_operation
                                rescue Exception => e
                                  model.abort_operation
                                  puts e.message
                                  puts e.backtrace
                                end
                                
                                

                                One can also catch potential JavaScript errors in the webdialog and make them visible/debuggable in the Ruby Console.

                                Edit: Debuggable version attached. It seems to be a JavaScript error caused by the Prototype library or the usage of it.
                                [pre:2zs9no9b]Object required [http://sketchup.engineeringtoolbox.com/static/lib/scripts/prototype_1_6_0_2.js:3517](http://sketchup.engineeringtoolbox.com/static/lib/scripts/prototype_1_6_0_2.js:3517): in JavaScript function[/pre:2zs9no9b]


                                engineeringtoolbox.rb

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                                  Aerilius
                                  last edited by 6 May 2015, 14:35

                                  This error is related to the use of the Prototype library's Form.Element.Methods.getValue (= $F) which takes an element id string and returns the element's value (under the condition the element exists). The engineering toolbox generates element id strings from parameters (correctly to my view), but the corresponding elements seem not to exist. To find out more, one would need a stack trace and check the element ids at runtime.

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                                    TomEdit
                                    last edited by 29 May 2015, 17:35

                                    This Windows related problem is now solved.

                                    No reinstallation of the extension is required - but some visited pages in the extension may need reloading (right click the extension window and "reload").

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                                      Blastfurnace
                                      last edited by 29 May 2015, 17:57

                                      SOLUTION

                                      You guys can hammer out what change could be made to fix this issue but I got a reply from the folks at engineering toolbox.

                                      When you click insert and nothing happens you can fix it by refreshing the page.

                                      Right click in the page and select "refresh".

                                      After that the insert will work.

                                      Maybe this can be added to the plugin somehow?

                                      But anyhow this gets us back to work.

                                      Thank you everyone for your time!!

                                      Mark Henry

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