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      slbaumgartner
      last edited by

      You can see what I mean about the Parallels icon.


      Screen Shot 2014-12-01 at 12.31.39 PM.png

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        driven
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        @amarv91, can you see the icon from the zipped skp I posted?

        @jeff, cheers

        @steve. that is odd, it's certainly not a windows generated skp...

        what does

        xattr -l <path_to_file>
        

        show for that file...
        I'll see if I can find how I fixed it when I used Parallels, I did have that issue at some stage.

        john

        learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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          driven
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          @steve
          I think it was this as I have an old bookmark for it...
          http://kb.parallels.com/en/4718

          don't know if it's still relevant...

          learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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            slbaumgartner
            last edited by

            @driven said:

            @steve. that is odd, it's certainly not a windows generated skp...

            what does

            xattr -l <path_to_file>
            

            show for that file...

            steves-macbook:Downloads steve$ xattr -l icon_test_raw.skp
            com.apple.metadata:kMDItemDownloadedDate:
            00000000 62 70 6C 69 73 74 30 30 A1 01 33 41 BA 2C E7 5E |bplist00..3A.,.^|
            00000010 71 6F 65 08 0A 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 01 00 00 00 |qoe.............|
            00000020 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................|
            00000030 00 00 00 00 13 |.....|
            00000035
            com.apple.metadata:kMDItemWhereFroms:
            00000000 62 70 6C 69 73 74 30 30 A2 01 02 5F 10 3B 68 74 |bplist00....;ht|
            00000010 74 70 3A 2F 2F 73 6B 65 74 63 68 75 63 61 74 69 |tp://sketchucati|
            00000020 6F 6E 2E 63 6F 6D 2F 66 6F 72 75 6D 73 2F 64 6F |on.com/forums/do|
            00000030 77 6E 6C 6F 61 64 2F 66 69 6C 65 2E 70 68 70 3F |wnload/file.php?|
            00000040 69 64 3D 31 32 35 39 37 30 5F 10 3A 68 74 74 70 |id=125970
            .:http|
            00000050 3A 2F 2F 73 6B 65 74 63 68 75 63 61 74 69 6F 6E |://sketchucation|
            00000060 2E 63 6F 6D 2F 66 6F 72 75 6D 73 2F 76 69 65 77 |.com/forums/view|
            00000070 74 6F 70 69 63 2E 70 68 70 3F 66 3D 37 39 26 74 |topic.php?f=79&t|
            00000080 3D 36 30 31 30 37 08 0B 49 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 |=60107..I.......|
            00000090 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................|
            000000A0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 86 |.........|
            000000a9
            com.apple.quarantine: 0002;547cafde;Safari;9E1D94FE-013C-4742-B929-996591069EE1

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              driven
              last edited by

              not much help...
              maybe mdls will bare fruit...

              mdls icon_test_raw.skp
              

              learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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              • jeff hammondJ Offline
                jeff hammond
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                @amarv91 said:

                Yup i have sketchup installed on my mac and i dont hav any virtual desktop software on my mac.

                if you double-click on one of those icons, does the file open in sketchup?

                dotdotdot

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                  slbaumgartner
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                  steves-macbook:Downloads steve$ mdls icon_test_raw.skp
                  kMDItemContentCreationDate = 2014-12-01 16:07:22 +0000
                  kMDItemContentModificationDate = 2014-12-01 16:07:22 +0000
                  kMDItemContentType = "dyn.ah62d4rv4ge81g45u"
                  kMDItemContentTypeTree = (
                  "public.data",
                  "public.item"
                  )
                  kMDItemDateAdded = 2014-12-01 18:13:50 +0000
                  kMDItemDisplayName = "icon_test_raw.skp"
                  kMDItemDownloadedDate = (
                  "2014-12-01 18:13:50 +0000"
                  )
                  kMDItemFSContentChangeDate = 2014-12-01 16:07:22 +0000
                  kMDItemFSCreationDate = 2014-12-01 16:07:22 +0000
                  kMDItemFSCreatorCode = ""
                  kMDItemFSFinderFlags = 0
                  kMDItemFSHasCustomIcon = (null)
                  kMDItemFSInvisible = 0
                  kMDItemFSIsExtensionHidden = 0
                  kMDItemFSIsStationery = (null)
                  kMDItemFSLabel = 0
                  kMDItemFSName = "icon_test_raw.skp"
                  kMDItemFSNodeCount = (null)
                  kMDItemFSOwnerGroupID = 20
                  kMDItemFSOwnerUserID = 501
                  kMDItemFSSize = 14847
                  kMDItemFSTypeCode = ""
                  kMDItemKind = "SketchUp Document"
                  kMDItemLogicalSize = 14847
                  kMDItemPhysicalSize = 16384
                  kMDItemWhereFroms = (
                  "http://sketchucation.com/forums/download/file.php?id=125970",
                  "http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=79&t=60107"
                  )

                  Comparing that with the same command on one of my Mac-created skp's, nothing jumps out at me...a mystery!

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                  • jeff hammondJ Offline
                    jeff hammond
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                    a bit off topic but since sketchup is now 64bit, shouldn't we be able to get preview thumbnails out of sketchup itself?
                    as in- Trimble could/should make some sort of QLgenerator (or whatever the applicable set up would be)?

                    dotdotdot

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                      driven
                      last edited by

                      the preview is in there but it's a tiny raster image...
                      I think it should be possible to create a 3d preview for quicklook...

                      learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                      • jeff hammondJ Offline
                        jeff hammond
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                        was just thinking they could update it to give 512px (at least) preview icons with the view of the model when the file is saved/closed being the icon view. rhino works like that and it's pretty sweet.

                        idk, sometimes I wonder if the reasoning is because Trimble doesn't want to do it (for whatever reason) or if they just don't have the resources to work on things like that.

                        dotdotdot

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                          slbaumgartner
                          last edited by

                          @jeff hammond said:

                          a bit off topic but since sketchup is now 64bit, shouldn't we be able to get preview thumbnails out of sketchup itself?
                          as in- Trimble could/should make some sort of QLgenerator (or whatever the applicable set up would be)?

                          Not really off topic, Jeff, since icons and quick looks are very tightly entangled. I have long wondered why @Last, then Google, and now Trimble have not bothered to write one - especially since they added a thumbnail system for Windows as of SU 2015.

                          This really has nothing to do with 32- vs 64-bit SketchUp, it depends only on whether the app either embeds a thumbnail image you can use or an automation interface you can query to get a thumbnail. A Mac SketchUp file has an undocumented embedded thumbnail, but the last time I checked it was at a pathetic resolution (I think it was either 64x64 or 128x128) that made a blurry mess out of most models. SketchUp does not provide any external query mechanism by which to retrieve a thumbnail.

                          A few years ago I wrote a ruby and QLgenerator that work together to save and then display a higher-resolution quicklook. The main downside is that the ruby saves an image each time a file closes, which makes closing a complex model slow. It could not attach the image directly to the file, which means the thumbnail is lost if you send the file anywhere else. That's part of what John addressed with his icon approach, since the icon lives in the Resource Fork of the skp file, and is lost only during transfers that strip the resource fork.

                          Someday when I have nothing to do (!) I plan to investigate whether the SketchUp SDK could be used to write a QLgenerator that would read the file, create an image on the fly, and display it. That might be slow, but it would otherwise be the best solution.

                          steve

                          Steve

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                            driven
                            last edited by

                            @jeff hammond said:

                            ...with the view of the model when the file is saved/closed being the icon view. rhino works like that and it's pretty sweet.

                            mine can be very easily modified to do that, but it's something I didn't want...
                            the main reason was I always save the document based on what I just drew, which might not represent the model very well.
                            I think of them more like a poster-frame on a .mov where you frame what you want and apply it as an icon.
                            an on-close overwrite would take away my choice...

                            Trimble have two engines that they could exploit for better previews...
                            one is Apples DAE quicklook generator
                            the other is the system used for 3d Warehouse that could be hosted locally and feed the html to quicklook...

                            I would image either solution will only be explored if windows has similar possibilities...

                            john

                            learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                              slbaumgartner
                              last edited by

                              In case any Mac users were following this topic and wondered why I was getting that icon, I found the answer: when two apps both register for the same file UTI, Finder uses the icon for the most recently installed one. I had installed SketchUp 2015 on Windows in Parallels and let Parallels make it visible in Mac mode. I did this after installing the native Mac version, so Finder chose the Windows icon. Touching the native Mac app to give it a more recent timestamp fixed the problem.

                              Steve

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                                amarv91
                                last edited by

                                @driven said:

                                @amarv91, can you see the icon from the zipped skp I posted?

                                @jeff, cheers

                                @steve. that is odd, it's certainly not a windows generated skp...

                                what does

                                xattr -l <path_to_file>
                                

                                show for that file...

                                I'll see if I can find how I fixed it when I used Parallels, I did have that issue at some stage.

                                john

                                Hi John,

                                Below are the icon preview in different views.
                                v1
                                v2
                                v3
                                v4

                                It shows in all views except in thumbnail....! 😕

                                Cant figure out why....

                                Amar

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                                  driven
                                  last edited by

                                  the icon created by my plugin shows up in all views...
                                  I'll PM you a copy if you want...
                                  john

                                  learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                                  • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                    jeff hammond
                                    last edited by

                                    @amarv91 said:

                                    It shows in all views except in thumbnail....! 😕

                                    Cant figure out why....

                                    Amar

                                    yeah, weird indeed. (I don't know why it's doing that nor have I seen the behavior before) 😕

                                    dotdotdot

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                                      driven
                                      last edited by

                                      @amarv91 said:

                                      ...Below are the icon preview in different views...

                                      do they show if you adjust icon size?

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      Icon size: Use this slider to dynamically adjust the size of the icons in this folder. The larger the icon, the easier it is to see the thumbnail previews. Of course the larger they are, the more room they take up.

                                      and, did you reset Finder?
                                      john

                                      learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                                        amarv91
                                        last edited by

                                        @driven said:

                                        @amarv91 said:

                                        ...Below are the icon preview in different views...

                                        do they show if you adjust icon size?

                                        @unknownuser said:

                                        Icon size: Use this slider to dynamically adjust the size of the icons in this folder. The larger the icon, the easier it is to see the thumbnail previews. Of course the larger they are, the more room they take up.

                                        and, did you reset Finder?
                                        john

                                        Yes using slider shows the icon, but only if it is above 128px X 128px.

                                        I tried resetting the finder. (i.e relaunching the finder)

                                        And ya please share the plugin which u have...

                                        Thanks

                                        Amar

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                                          driven
                                          last edited by

                                          @Amar,
                                          I'll PM you a rbz...
                                          john

                                          learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                                            joemed
                                            last edited by

                                            I wanted to see if there was an update on the Icon status for Mac’s
                                            Many of my older files created with Sketchup 8 Pro have a custom icons.
                                            Once opened in Sketchup 2015 Pro and saved as 2015 or Sketchup 8 they only have generic icons.
                                            Is there a plugin or secondary solution?
                                            Thanks in advance.
                                            Joe
                                            MBP i5 2.53 GHz 8GB Mavericks 10.9.5

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