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    mk11
    last edited by 2 Nov 2014, 16:21

    Price aside, I'd like to hear from people currently using either or both or have used them in the past. Looking to add animations to our presentation arsenal. If cost was not an issue, which one would you choose? From the website, it appears the feature sets are pretty comparable.
    Thx in advance for any input.

    Marc Kleinmann
    SU Pro 2015
    Mac & Win

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      Krisidious
      last edited by 2 Nov 2014, 20:58

      LumenRT 2015.

      By: Kristoff Rand
      Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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        Krisidious
        last edited by 2 Nov 2014, 21:26

        I guess I should give my reasoning... Lumion is really kool and really easy to use. but it's outrageously expensive and I think you can always tell something was done in Lumion. It just has this look about it. Where with Lumen, you can't tell what did it because it looks so real. And it's priced more reasonably. And Lumen working with e-on means plants... plants plants plants.

        By: Kristoff Rand
        Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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          peerman
          last edited by 4 Nov 2014, 07:07

          LumenRT because it works on Windows AND Mac (I'm using a Mac btw). And the price is much better of course!

          iMac i7 4,2GHz, 32GB RAM, OS X 10.13.5, Sketchup 2018 Pro, ArchiCAD 21, V-Ray 3.6

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            cadmunkey
            last edited by 4 Nov 2014, 13:16

            Lumion, version 5 is amazing and materials have had a huge upgrade.

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              Daniel
              last edited by 4 Nov 2014, 19:50

              I have LumenRT, and I haven't tried Lumion - they appear to be very similar, though. However, IF price weren't an option, I might seriously consider Lumion Pro. Looking at its list of features, it appears to have a lot more content.

              My avatar is an anachronism.

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                mk11
                last edited by 5 Nov 2014, 22:50

                Thx for the input. Will be checking Lumen out once the new version is available as an eval.

                Marc Kleinmann
                SU Pro 2015
                Mac & Win

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                  dbaird
                  last edited by 6 Nov 2014, 04:07

                  **I've used Lumion 3 & 4 for the past 2 years with great success. The voluntary upgrade cost for small users, $1500 per year, is pretty tough to swallow. It makes great videos & good enough still images at blazing speeds. Some advanced & talented users, like with any software, get great results.

                  I use Revit to create the building design, export out a dwg to Sketchup, texture the model, export a collada file & then import into Lumion. All of the materials come into Lumion where we then tweak them. Then we add Lumion entourage & weather effects. Then we make still images & videos, very easily & fast.

                  What has been very difficult to for many users is that some upgrade features don't work 100% as advertised, such as the grass feature where the 3d blades of grass abruptly transition to a texture at a certain distance from the camera.

                  The arrival of V5 this week did not arrive to cheers of hundreds on the forum like last year. It has been anti-climatic. I lot of former cheer leaders have disappeared over the year. I get the feeling that a lot of people are waiting to upgrade until they see the results & problems of folks who do upgrade. I want Lumion to succeed since I have a lot of money in this program. But sometimes I get the feeling that the developers are really struggling. However, unlike E-on, makers of Lumen RT, the developers communicate pretty well through the forums. Frustrated Lumion users have been posting links to Twinmotion, another realtime software. It has a lot of promise if it gets developed & gets support. Unless it's changed a lot from a year ago, it's difficult to use & costly. I also tried Lumen RT 2 years ago & found no support, but the features seemed to have improved with this latest version.

                  My best advice is to visit the forums of Lumen RT & Lumion to get a feel for how the users like the software use, results & support. Lumion except for a few cases has always provided great & timely support by answering questions directly on the forums.**

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                    Macho3001
                    last edited by 24 Nov 2015, 04:51

                    Lumen 6 has just launched. I saw some promos and was impressed with the new features of 6 which include pure glass, material reflections, direct light etc. I am an architect and a user of LumenRT, and have had these features in it post their 2015 release, however am also impressed by the tremendous following Lumen claims to have in the architectural community. Would really appreciate if a detailed debate on the superior software for architects could be done here to enlighten professionals like us about both software's prowess, and drawbacks. Even software manufacturers could pitch in, for everyone's benefit. Many thanks.

                    3DADS
                    'Leadership, by Design'
                    3rd Dimension, Architecture Design Studio

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                      pilou
                      last edited by 24 Nov 2015, 09:06

                      For free version seems Lumen RT is more appetizing! ๐Ÿ˜‰

                      http://sketchucation.com/forums/download/file.php?id=129322&t=1

                      04_Desert_001.jpg

                      Frenchy Pilou
                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                      My Little site :)

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                        sfto1
                        last edited by 25 Nov 2015, 01:09

                        Does LumenRT Viz have the feature of setting up interior lighting?

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                          sfto1
                          last edited by 25 Nov 2015, 01:32

                          @pilou said:

                          This sort of things ? ๐Ÿ˜„
                          Seems it's for internal lights no?

                          Yes, that is what I was wondering. Thank you Pilou!

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                            pilou
                            last edited by 25 Nov 2015, 01:47

                            Crossing post : so you must see above! ๐Ÿ˜‰
                            Ps Don't forget to increase the Light power in this case of figure! ๐Ÿ˜‰

                            blue_one.jpg

                            Frenchy Pilou
                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                            My Little site :)

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                              pilou
                              last edited by 25 Nov 2015, 01:48

                              This sort of things ? ๐Ÿ˜„
                              Seems it's for internal lights no?

                              lumen01.jpg

                              Inside the Work screen before rendering ๐Ÿ˜„
                              lightlumen.jpg

                              Frenchy Pilou
                              Is beautiful that please without concept!
                              My Little site :)

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                                CharleyReeves
                                last edited by 22 Jun 2016, 15:27

                                Hey all. I know this is an older thread, but I have just started looking at LumenRt. I am also a Mac User and cannot find the Mac Version of LumenRT anywhere. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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                                  solo
                                  last edited by 23 Jun 2016, 19:36

                                  I found this: https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/49499/lumenrt so assuming it was available for a Mac back then I'd assume it's available with the new version.

                                  I personally am only PC, do know a new version of LRT is on the horizon.

                                  http://www.solos-art.com

                                  If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                                    pilou
                                    last edited by 23 Jun 2016, 20:03

                                    Alas for hobbyists who have not loaded the free Lumenrt fo Sketchup 2015! ๐Ÿ˜ข
                                    (i was lucky to load it! ๐Ÿ˜‰
                                    This is not more possible after the purchase by Bentley of Eon! ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

                                    Frenchy Pilou
                                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                    My Little site :)

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                                      solo
                                      last edited by 24 Jun 2016, 15:44

                                      From Benoit Fredericque of Bentley (LRT)

                                      What about OS X support? Is that deprecated?

                                      Bentley is committed to keep supporting OS X with LumenRT. However, the release of OS X version is delayed and will occur this fall.

                                      http://www.solos-art.com

                                      If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                                        Martini
                                        last edited by 13 Aug 2016, 23:14

                                        Hi all. For what it's worth, Nick Sonder, in his book 'Sketchup & Layout for Architecture', shows some render created using LumenRT ๐Ÿ˜„ ciao

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                                          Billou
                                          last edited by 15 Aug 2017, 13:19

                                          @krisidious said:

                                          I guess I should give my reasoning... Lumion is really kool and really easy to use. but it's outrageously expensive and I think you can always tell something was done in Lumion. It just has this look about it. Where with Lumen, you can't tell what did it because it looks so real. And it's priced more reasonably. And Lumen working with e-on means plants... plants plants plants.

                                          not exactly true, Lumion Pro cost only 200$ moore.. than Lument RT (3250$)... not so outrageaous i think even Lumion basique cost 1700$...

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