Sketchup ur Space & Sketchup 4 Architect stolen content
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Well Damnit... I let their head guy post their links on my sketchup facebook page. I've gotten on to him because most of their articles don't link to the content they are talking about. They put a url on the page, but no actual link. I'm fairly certain this Rajib Dey is the one running their show. I had thought they were a small drafting/3D company. But after closer inspection I believe you're right, They're SEO farming.
Rajib Dey
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Although I have to say he posts tons of relevant links... I guess I see his incentive wasn't architectural knowledge.
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Rajib is the guy that seems to have been running it from day 1. There were/are a few other people who seem to be involved too.
They do post a lot of links, but they don't know what they are talking about, at all. It appears they are doing human powered spam to drive as much traffic to them as possible. I welcome them to come out and explain themselves, but somehow I don't think that will happen because they are a shady, fly by night SEO company.
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I have to agree... I should have paid closer attention. I've removed him from my page until such time as it's explained.
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One word. Dishonest.
Hassle us regularly.
Social media is the best way to raise awareness of their 'antics'
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As far as Facebook goes, can't you stop them from posting to your page? Unfriend them?
Seems like the same as what Google does. Google mines our info for targeting ads. I've been constantly bugged by Google and other internet "services" to list my business (so they can misrepresent it in some inept fashion) AND we all do have our personal and business info "stolen" to pad their sites.
What's on the web gets misappropriated regularly by Google and other web companies
But one expects more from a site posing as SketchUp source and it's too bad people will be mislead and others will not receive credit or payment for their contributions.
At least they did take something down after being bugged. I doubt you can get that far with most such spam operations.
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Probably the most effective thing you can do if your content has been stolen is to use the Google Disavow toolhttps://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/disavow-links-main.
This will tell Google that you do not condone or trust the domain that is linking to your website, and it will hurt their SEO rankings. The tool was created for situations like this and for people who link to your site with "negative SEO" tactics to try to bring your site down in rankings.
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Disavow Tool will not hurt their rank... It only attempts to save your rank from being affected by bad sites or your own spammy link campaign. Matt Cutts was very clear that the Disavow tool could not be used by others to hurt website ranking on a website. Although, he is a known liar...
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You can use the Google DCMA request to remove content from Google services that has breached your copyright or trademark. It won't remove their site or their content from their server, but Google may remove them from search.
Report Content for Legal Reasons - Legal Help
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(support.google.com)
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Great suggestions. I was luckily able to get them to honor my request to remove the content, but only after barraging them on just about every channel I could.
I suggest that if anyone finds stolen content to call them at 866 493 4944. I got them to answer once and it clearly forwards to a cell phone. The guy on the other end, who wouldn't identify himself (I was very polite) I can only assume was Rajib. On the phone he promised to remove the content, but then didn't follow through for about a week.
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@krisidious said:
Disavow Tool will not hurt their rank... It only attempts to save your rank from being affected by bad sites or your own spammy link campaign. Matt Cutts was very clear that the Disavow tool could not be used by others to hurt website ranking on a website. Although, he is a known liar...
I don't think it hurts their rank directly. It's more of a byproduct. I'm pretty sure Google takes outbound links into account when figuring out how relative your content is. So, when they link to all of our great content, they're telling Google, "Hey, my site is similar to all these other sites". By disavowing, you're taking that advantage away from them, therefore, hurting their rankings.
Also, I'd find it hard to believe that if a website is being disavowed from MULTIPLE sites, Google doesn't pick up on this pattern and hit them in the rankings. It seems like a great way for Google to crowd-source spam control. Of course, I could be wrong, but it seems logical to me.
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That's why we've made that specific point to Matt Cutts, he's the head of Search. It was posited to him that this would in turn be used as a weapon against a site's competitors.
He's assured us that being disavowed has no affect on rank...
However... Like I said. he's a known liar. He told us we could trade links with relevant sites. Then we get hammered for it. And yes, I agree, it's a treasure trove of data to ignore.
Links are votes... even bad links carry some weight, but good links inside text with relevant linking text are best. If a website like these links to you, disavowing the links will subtract the link weight they carry from your profile, not theirs. They will have to be penalized by the algorithm for being spammy.
The disavow tool's main purpose is to dig people out of their spammy graves. If you had a bad linking system, or you paid someone and they did some bad things. It helps you get your reputation back... They warn only to use it if you are absolutely sure as it can hurt your own rank.
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Ranked or not, let's make sure that everyone that reads this understands how these guys operate, and checks their websites for stolen content.
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Just so everyone knows, these guys just ripped off images from Matt Donley right from the main page of SketchUp.com.
If anyone needs help getting their stuff off of any of the sites they operate, I am willing to help.
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You should screen shot things like that...
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Eric, thanks for highlighting this. Really appalling way to do business. I'm going to check this out.
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Ok, they removed Matt's image, but now have one right off of the SketchUp home page. Hope they got permission.
Feel free to weigh in Sketchup Ur Space.
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I doubt they are here... Over at our BlackBook group we determined they are indeed only a SEO website traffic scheme. People are here to learn, they just use google alerts to post new links I'm sure.
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The unfortunate downside to posting about them here is that you have probably generated more hits for them than complaints. One of the cases where even bad publicity is good.
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I don't care how many hits they get. If we don't speak about this publicly it will never get dealt with.
They are allowed to get all the hits they want, they shouldn't steal other people's content though. This is one of the best forums for getting the word out.
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I tend to disagree
This tactic they employ of recycling good copy from knowledgeable users into their own content is not something to ignore.
There are multiple occasions where I have spent hrs writing a detailed tut to only see it repeated elsewhere.
That alone hinders me in creating more detailed content which means users lose out.
Brushing this away is not the answer. Publicly educating these 'SketchUp Promoters' that mimicry isn't allowed or flattering.
By educating I don't mean to witch hunt them but to actually let them know that my shared content is still my content. Credit me, ask me or tell me you are using it. Don't just cut, copy and paste it and make revenue from it.
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