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    Nonsolid object becoming solid when exported to Cura

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    • A Offline
      autumnalblues
      last edited by

      Wonderful! Thank you so much, TIG. πŸ˜„

      I'm relatively new at SketchUp. Kindly pardon me for the naive questions:

      -> How can I determine that the faces are reversed or not?
      -> How do I make sure that the model only contains edges and faces and that each edge has exactly two faces?

      Thanks again, TIG. πŸ˜„

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      • TIGT Offline
        TIG Moderator
        last edited by

        @autumnalblues said:

        Wonderful! Thank you so much, TIG. πŸ˜„

        I'm relatively new at SketchUp. Kindly pardon me for the naive questions:

        -> How can I determine that the faces are reversed or not?
        -> How do I make sure that the model only contains edges and faces and that each edge has exactly two faces?

        Thanks again, TIG. πŸ˜„
        The Style sets front and back face colors.
        I reset your back face to a bright-blue so it was unlike the off-white front color.
        If you have applied materials view in Monochrome mode to see just front/back.
        If you see blue that's the back.
        Select it and context-menu > 'Reverse...'
        If the object is a manifold-solid 'Orient...' will reset all faces to match the selected one [so in that case choose a correctly oriented face first...]

        To ensure 'solidity'.
        First off delete anything that is not part of the model like 'Sophie'.
        Use the Model Info > Statistics > Purge Unused to tidy up too.
        To see if the model is a solid, you can group the geometry and its Entity Info says either 'Solid Group' or 'Group'...
        Explode the Group before exporting geometry.

        Thomthom's 'Sold Inspector' tool [Tip: also remember to also install its needed 'Lib'] will show you what is wrong with a non-solid.
        Use the native section-plane tool within the group to cut planes to see what is inside - e.g. 'partitions' - also the native Xray mode lets you see inside and then erase edges etc.
        Thomthoms' 'CleanUp' tool also removes loose/coplanar edges - en mass...
        My 'SolidSolver' will also [try to] clean up a non-solid - if it can - BUT it is possible to make a form that can only be fixed by eye/hand... πŸ˜’

        TIG

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          d12dozr
          last edited by

          Looks like TIG has your question sorted πŸ‘

          Also note that you'll want to add some geometry connecting the free-floating eye and mouth parts, or else you'll end up with 3 separate pieces after printing - unless that is what you intended πŸ˜„

          3D Printing with SketchUp Book
          http://goo.gl/f7ooYh

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          • TIGT Offline
            TIG Moderator
            last edited by

            Marcus is of course correct - unless you intend your model to be made out of pieces - make sure all geometry is linked into a single form.
            Any links will also need to follow the rule about 'partitions' where they abut the main geometry at their ends...
            A 'solid' can still have 'discrete parts', and that don't affect its 'solidity'; BUT depending on the material used some printers will charge extra for it effectively being several separate objects in one file...

            TIG

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              autumnalblues
              last edited by

              Thanks for all the tips, guys! πŸ˜„ Yes, I'll add some geometry connecting the free-floating eye and mouth. πŸ˜„

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                d12dozr
                last edited by

                Great, and please post photos of the finished print and cookies once you make them! πŸŽ‰

                3D Printing with SketchUp Book
                http://goo.gl/f7ooYh

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                  autumnalblues
                  last edited by

                  I most definitely will. πŸ˜„

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                    autumnalblues
                    last edited by

                    Here is the finished cookie cutter, guys. πŸ˜„ Can't wait to try this on fondant and make sugar cookies! πŸ˜„


                    Elsa1.jpg


                    Elsa2.jpg

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                      cotty
                      last edited by

                      Nice result!

                      my SketchUp gallery

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                        d12dozr
                        last edited by

                        Looking good!

                        3D Printing with SketchUp Book
                        http://goo.gl/f7ooYh

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                          autumnalblues
                          last edited by

                          Hello again, guys! πŸ˜„

                          I'm making an Anna cookie cutter this time around. πŸ˜„ For the life of me, I can't figure out what's wrong with the model. I still have a lot to learn on Sketchup, indeed. πŸ˜„ The neck becomes solid when I export it to Cura. 😞 Kindly check attached files.

                          Would anyone be able to point out what's wrong with the model?

                          Thank you. πŸ˜„


                          Anna This Is It Outline 2.skp


                          Anna on Cura.JPG

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                          • TIGT Offline
                            TIG Moderator
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                            To check if any model is a solid you need select all of the relevant geometry and make it into Component [or Group].
                            Its "Entity Info" will not include the word 'Solid' in its header if it is not a solid.
                            Sadly it is not a solid.
                            It is racked with internal partition faces.
                            Use thomthom's Solid-Inspector to see the many issues.
                            My SolidSolver cannot fix it as the issues are two convoluted...
                            To fix it, edit it cut a section-plane looking down so you can see inside it.
                            Erase any internal facets and faceless edges [select+<del> key].
                            Remember that a solid object can only contain faces and edges, and every edge must have two faces - no fewer and no more !
                            Internal partition faces mean there will be edges with only one or more likely three or more faces.
                            There are some faceless edges, and you have a part meeting at a point - meaning that edge has four faces !
                            A little remodeling is needed 😞

                            TIG

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                              autumnalblues
                              last edited by

                              Thanks TIG. πŸ˜„ I really appreciate the help. πŸ˜„ I most definitely need to remodel Anna. πŸ˜„ Just a small favor: can you take a screenshot of the part that has four faces? πŸ˜„

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                                TIG Moderator
                                last edited by

                                See this...


                                Capture.PNG

                                TIG

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                                  autumnalblues
                                  last edited by

                                  Fantastic! Thanks a lot, TIG. πŸ˜„

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