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    • fredo6F Offline
      fredo6
      last edited by

      @krism said:

      Fredo6,
      This is great.If you wouldn't mind, could you do a test on the attached file. The walls were created with Building Structure Tool. The wall groups are composed of some solid group wall parts. There are some underlying attributes attached to the group to identify it as a BST structure which allows the BST tools to do various things. I don't know what this stuff is and don't know if your tool will work on the wall parts. It would be great if it did.
      KrisM

      [attachment=2:25vefbvo]<!-- ia2 -->MWall Test.skp<!-- ia2 -->[/attachment:25vefbvo]

      Kris,

      Looks like it works on your wall.

      [attachment=1:25vefbvo]<!-- ia1 -->VisuHole - KrisM wall.gif<!-- ia1 -->[/attachment:25vefbvo]

      [attachment=0:25vefbvo]<!-- ia0 -->VisuHole - KrisM wall 2.gif<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:25vefbvo]

      Fredo


      VisuHole - KrisM wall.gif


      VisuHole - KrisM wall 2.gif

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      • R Offline
        rv1974
        last edited by

        @dave r said:

        A group of solids isn't a solid so the plugin won't work. 😒

        It is a solid in other programs, in Max for instance. And it makes life way easier.

        @Fredo: This new coincidence looks amazing 😲
        Could the Cutter have multiple (not connected) shapes?

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        • R Offline
          rv1974
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          @rv1974 said:

          Could the Cutter have multiple (not connected) shapes?

          is it planned to support the native Shift Projection mode?


          jjjj.gif

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          • sdmitchS Offline
            sdmitch
            last edited by

            With Fredo on the job, I can stop wasting my time!!!!!!!!

            Nothing is worthless, it can always be used as a bad example.

            http://sdmitch.blogspot.com/

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            • K Offline
              KrisM
              last edited by

              Fredo,
              This is really good. I will wait patiently for your work to progress although my anticipation is at a high state at the moment.
              Kris

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              • fredo6F Offline
                fredo6
                last edited by

                @rv1974 said:

                Could the Cutter have multiple (not connected) shapes?

                Yes, it should. Actually, I still have to buld the GUI to pick a stencil pattern from faces in the model, but multiple shapes is possible

                Fredo

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                • fredo6F Offline
                  fredo6
                  last edited by

                  @krism said:

                  The walls were created with Building Structure Tool. The wall groups are composed of some solid group wall parts. There are some underlying attributes attached to the group to identify it as a BST structure which allows the BST tools to do various things.

                  I noticed a strange thing in the wall. It seems all normals are reversed and Sketchup is messed up with that. Very strange!

                  EDIT: this has to do with how the groups were created. If you explode each group and then make them group invidually, this odd behavior disappears.

                  Fredo

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                  • K Offline
                    KrisM
                    last edited by

                    Fredo,
                    The only problem with exploding the walls is that they would no longer be recognized as a structure by BST and then you can't use the BST tools on them. The BST tools allow you to extend walls to other walls, extend to faces and mitre the corners. These are great tools but don't work on non BST objects. The only thing missing was a way to make holes in the walls which doesn't work with Hole on Solid but appears to work with your plugin.
                    The wall in the sample file comes with BST (its called MWALL). You can actually create your own mwalls which is really the power of BST. I will look at a mwall I created and see if the same issue is present.
                    KrisM

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                    • fredo6F Offline
                      fredo6
                      last edited by

                      Kris,

                      I don't suggest you change anything. But it seems that all of these BST groups are systematically 'mirrored', that is one of their axes is reversed.

                      And when you create a group within such 'mirrored' groups, it is also mirrored.

                      Fredo

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                      • pep75P Offline
                        pep75
                        last edited by

                        Fredo....when can we kiss your feet?

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                        • mitcorbM Offline
                          mitcorb
                          last edited by

                          Just a question:
                          Does the punching shape have to address a face? Or, in the examples above can the punch start midway down a wall. Why? No reason. I just saw that the cutter can turn as it changes position. And I saw it align on an edge/corner as if resolving the normals for the adjacent faces.

                          I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                          • fredo6F Offline
                            fredo6
                            last edited by

                            @mitcorb said:

                            Just a question:
                            Does the punching shape have to address a face? Or, in the examples above can the punch start midway down a wall. Why? No reason. I just saw that the cutter can turn as it changes position. And I saw it align on an edge/corner as if resolving the normals for the adjacent faces.

                            VisuHole is based on a projection plane (I may address draping later on).

                            So the plane is determined, in a similar way as MoveAlong, that is:

                            1. based on picked object (face, edge, vertex)

                            2. you can lock an axis plane

                            3. you can pick and force a plane from the model

                            VisuHole - Early Stage 4.gif

                            Fredo

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                            • mitcorbM Offline
                              mitcorb
                              last edited by

                              Excellent work, sir!!

                              I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                              • D Offline
                                dedmin
                                last edited by

                                There are enough Fredos plugins to make a standalone application! 😆

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                                • Bob JamesB Offline
                                  Bob James
                                  last edited by

                                  @dedmin said:

                                  There are enough Fredos plugins to make a standalone application! 😆

                                  Interesting. That thought occurred to me even before this new marvel. I've already replaced shortcuts to lines, moves, etc to Fredo versions.

                                  FredoSketch. 😄

                                  i7-4930K 3.4Ghz, 2x GTX780 6GB, 32GB DDR3-1600 ECC, OCZ Vertex 4 500GB, WD Black 3TB, 32TB NAS, 4x 27" Monitors, SpaceMouse Pro, X-keys XK-60

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                                  • tt_suT Offline
                                    tt_su
                                    last edited by

                                    @dedmin said:

                                    There are enough Fredos plugins to make a standalone application! 😆

                                    Fred'Up? 😄

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                                    • fredo6F Offline
                                      fredo6
                                      last edited by

                                      @bob james said:

                                      FredoSketch. 😄

                                      @tt_su said:

                                      Fred'Up? 😄

                                      Too much honor!
                                      It's when I write these plugins that I realize how rich is Sketchup, and the incredible amount of work that has been put in it over time.

                                      Fredo

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                                      • K Offline
                                        KrisM
                                        last edited by

                                        Well deserved honour in my opinion.
                                        KrisM

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                                        • jolranJ Offline
                                          jolran
                                          last edited by

                                          @Sam
                                          @unknownuser said:

                                          With Fredo on the job, I can stop wasting my time!!!!!!!!

                                          Copy that! As Jack Bauer use to say.

                                          BTW, looking at the video the response time seams to be pretty good. Does it work well with denser geometry ?

                                          How the h&#l do you do that ?

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                                          • jolranJ Offline
                                            jolran
                                            last edited by

                                            I meant Fredo's video about the stamp-boolean thing, double-sorry 😳
                                            I can see how that got misinterpreted.. My english is not fluid sometimes.

                                            Watching your video again, Sam. I clearly see you do the same thing. So thanks for the code 👍

                                            You only have to do some fancy widgets now, and you are good to go!

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