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    • cottyC Offline
      cotty
      last edited by

      I've created a little collection of wood joints.

      If you know any names of them, I will collect them in this post to complement the model...
      Dave collected an almost complete list later in this topic. Thank you!

      mortise_tenon_small_b.jpg

      (Downloads first version: 65)


      cotty_mortise_tenon_b.skp

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      • TIGT Online
        TIG Moderator
        last edited by

        Thanks.
        A useful collection.
        There are many www sites naming wood-joints...
        http://woodworking.about.com/od/joinery/tp/JoineryHub.htm
        http://www.raygirling.com/wwjoints.htm
        http://www.mr-dt.com/manufacturing/woodjoints.htm
        http://www.ripsdiy.co.za/woodjoins.shtml#top

        I'm sure Dave R as our resident joinery guru will give the best definitive answers...

        TIG

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        • W Offline
          watkins
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          Could you possibly post a Version 8 copy? Many thanks, Bob

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          • cottyC Offline
            cotty
            last edited by

            @watkins said:

            Could you possibly post a Version 8 copy? Many thanks, Bob

            I've added a SU7 version...

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            • cottyC Offline
              cotty
              last edited by

              @tig said:

              Thanks.
              A useful collection.
              There are many www sites naming wood-joints...
              ...

              Thank you.
              Modeling them from a quick image search was a lot of fun, but searching for the correct english names will be no fun (for me), so I will not do this 😉

              @tig said:

              I'm sure Dave R as our resident joinery guru will give the best definitive answers...

              Yes, and to be honest, I've started modeling this after watching his Basecamp woodworking video 😎

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              • jarynzlesaJ Offline
                jarynzlesa
                last edited by

                thx for nice collection. names would be handy. some of them seems to made-up by you and very difficult to manufacture.

                http://www.vizualizaceschodiste.mypage.cz/

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                • cottyC Offline
                  cotty
                  last edited by

                  @jarynzlesa said:

                  some of them seems to made-up by you and very difficult to manufacture.

                  They all are modeled after images found via google image search...

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                  • Dave RD Offline
                    Dave R
                    last edited by

                    Nice work, Carsten. I'm glad my video inspired you to do that. 😉

                    Here's what I've come up with for those joints.

                    a. Half lap
                    b. ?
                    c. Halving joint
                    d. Sliding dovetail (these might be tapered, too)
                    e. Dovetail joint
                    f. Mortise and tenon. (both parts of the joint could get the same socket and a loose tenon added between. Festool’s Domino is a tool for cutting those)
                    g. Dowel joint
                    h. Twin bridle joint
                    i. Tusk tenon (the mortise in the tenon for the wedge should have the same slope so driving the wedge in will pull the tenoned piece up tight against the other piece)
                    j. Splined miter
                    k. Bridle joint
                    l. Pegged mortise and tenon.
                    m. Haunched mosrtise and tenon (typically used on doors. The tenons go on the rails, mortises on the stiles. The haunches fills the groove for the panel at the ends of the stiles)
                    n. Fox wedged mortise and tenon (the wedges get driven when they hit the bottom of the mortise. Tricky joint to execute correctly because you only get one chance to assemble it. If the wedges aren’t thick enough to expand the tenon fully, the joint can be loose. If the wedges are too thick, you won’t be able to close up the joint properly. In either case, something usually gets destroyed in taking it apart again.)
                    o. A combination mortise and tenon with sliding dovetail. There might be a Japanese name for it but it is basically a decorative joint.
                    p. ?
                    q. Box joint (although it wouldn’t be used with the pieces oriented as they are)
                    r. ? (might be useful for butt joining two piece of wood but it would be more decorative than functional. It provides some long grain gluing surfaces but sets up stress risers in all the corners so strength might not be that great.
                    s. ? Decorative and difficult to cut correctly.
                    t. Finger joint (common for joining short lengths of wood together. Probably much stronger than [r]. Typically seen in manufactured trim which will get painted.)
                    u. ? (looks like some sort of keyed birds mouth scarf joint. It would be decorative but not very strong. Without glue the only thing holding it together is the very small hooks that come up around the peg. Being very short grain, they would likely fail if there were any stress on the joint. The angled faces would provide decent gluing surface area but at that angle, they’d be 50% end grain. End grain doesn’t glue very well.
                    v. Mitered half lap. From one side it looks like a miter and the other a half lap joint. It can be a very good joint for frames because you get some good, long grain gluing area with the appearance of a miter.

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                    • TIGT Online
                      TIG Moderator
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                      b. That is something like a dovetail-tenon, but it has an added partial half-lap component so that the dovetail is hidden - making it look like a weak half-lap that could be pulled out, whilst inside it's stronger, with the dovetail that locks itself in ?

                      TIG

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                      • Dave RD Offline
                        Dave R
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                        It might be a bit stronger but if glue is used, the joint is probably more work than it is worth. The glue will be stronger than the wood anyway.

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                        • BoxB Offline
                          Box
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                          Personally I'll go with the unlisted joint and probably forget what I was going to

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                          • Dave RD Offline
                            Dave R
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                            @box said:

                            Personally I'll go with the unlisted joint and probably forget what I was going to

                            You can do that in Colorado. 😆

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                            • W Offline
                              watkins
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                              The version 7 is actually version 2014. Could you please save again in version 7 or 8.

                              Thanks,
                              Bob

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                              • cottyC Offline
                                cotty
                                last edited by

                                @watkins said:

                                The version 7 is actually version 2014. Could you please save again in version 7 or 8.
                                Thanks,
                                Bob

                                Sorry, I've replaced it.

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                                • J Offline
                                  jtri
                                  last edited by

                                  Nice collection. I have never made puzzle joints like this mortise and tenon, but it would be a fun challenge
                                  Joint.pdf

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                                  • emerald15E Offline
                                    emerald15
                                    last edited by

                                    Thank you. Although I am not likely to use them, my partner was very interested as he's studying carpentry.

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                                    • cottyC Offline
                                      cotty
                                      last edited by

                                      @jtri said:

                                      Nice collection. I have never made puzzle joints like this mortise and tenon, but it would be a fun challenge

                                      Here we go...

                                      cotty_joint_1.jpg

                                      Download: see first post

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                                      • Dave RD Offline
                                        Dave R
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                                        Nice1

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                                        • J Offline
                                          jtri
                                          last edited by

                                          Well for my next project I will need to find a way to add that joint into the design. I have a Japanese double mortise chisel that will be perfect to chop the motices. This will be fun on the bench.

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                                          • cottyC Offline
                                            cotty
                                            last edited by

                                            Another one...

                                            cotty_joint_2.jpg

                                            Download: see first post

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