Fishing net modeling
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You are running into the problems I mentioned way back with regard to file overload. While I like and can see benefits in using artizan I don't think it works for what you want.
It depends on what you really want but to me it doesn't produce a flowing net properly, it's too round and not a uniform construction. Nets are very regular in their form and are affected and controlled by tension and gravity.Going back to the component method using tig's extrusion tools, this net is made from one component. The shape is very controllable, the size and position of the weave is easily changed by adjusting the nodes on the lines. Converting to tubes takes seconds. The file is 2.6mb, it can be navigated easily, slight lag with shadows turned on. Took a few minutes to make and renders in minutes.
Drawing out the overall support pylons and wires would give you most of the construction lines needed. But it may not be the style you want.
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That looks awesome box!!!!
Only issue is it's more angular than the photo...but to me it looks better, almost like it's creased into that shape when it's been hung.
How do the nets meet? Can you post a close-up?
With regards to texturing, I wouldn't bother if you can simply use the geometry effectively. Using 4 iteration of artisan is too much in nearly all cases and then adding tubes will completely freeze sketchup.
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I can give you the model.
It's very quick, with a bit of work you could make something very detailed and neat. They don't actually join, I just made them straight along the edge so I could butt them together.
By making ones that fit to the support pylon on one side and are straight on the other you can put a bunch together and still only use a few components.
I wanted to create a quick version that showed the drape and tension but retained a relatively small file size.I think I saved this version as SU8, if I remember correctly you are still in the past.
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It looks amazing ! It's white just like I imagine it
Is this a texture or it's lines converted to tubes ?The problem is I can't use tig's extrusion tools, each time I'm having hard time, there's something I don't understand with this plugin...
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thx you very much ! I will explore your method today. My sketchup still running its 36h of working progress now lol, it makes no sens as you pointed earlier on.
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William, if you turn edges on in that model you'll find the lines I used to make the mesh, off to the side.
Using EEbyR, click one side, then the top then the bottom and finish on the other side, then say no to everything that pops up and you will have the mesh.
I used selection toys to select and remove the faces. Then converted to tubes, with 3sides and unsoftened them.If you can't follow that I can make a video if you want.
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I'd love to ! if you have time
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I did have succes o use EEbyR
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@unknownuser said:
The problem is I can't use tig's extrusion tools
lequel exactement ?
Le truc à savoir pour tous les outils Extrude de TIG
Clic 1 = Profil
Clic 2 = Rail 1
Clic 3 = Rail 2
Clic 4 = Profil de finQuand il n'y a pas 2 rails ou 2 profils on clique quand même sur le même rail ou le même profil pour avoir les 4 clics dans l'ordre!
Avantage des Extrudes de TIG!
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There are quite a few ways, but do you have Bezier tools, it give you the option to right click on a line and select polyline segmentor. Here you can type in the number of segments you want.
Selection toys is a plugin by thomthom.
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Short vid for net.
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Les courbes opposées doivent le même nombre de segments sinon c'est des calculs en plus!
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very cool thx a lot guys !
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It crashed after 40h of working
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I kind of like the shape of it. I applied a transparent texture and cast shadows from the edges. Is it possible to this with kerkythea or artlantis for the rendering.
My file is about 42 megs I can share a wetransfer link if someone wants to play with it
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How big is the model without the net, if it's less than 4mg you could upload it here.
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It's 26meg but I guess if you delete the bridge it's less than a meg.
Here's the link : http://we.tl/3Zg9yeDhRw
If you could make a video that could be perfect
I have 2 scenario to do. One with the net that is lower and one upper. If you notice, there is a line at the extreme end of the bridge, it's about 2.5meter high. The net must not drop above this line. It's why I liked playing with artisan I was able to set a limit -
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oh wow !
I feel ashamed ehehe 
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Is the model any quicker now it's been purged?
If you absolutely must use the model you already have, you could always overlay the sketchup lines and shadows onto your render. The shadows can be blurred in photoshop for realism. You can do a hidden line export and then overlay these onto your render in photoshop. Change the blending mode to "multiply" and all the white disappears, leaving only the lines. This is kinda cheating though! I'd rather have a model that renders from all scenes, without having to overlay lines.
Here is a VERY old tutorial, from David Huang (Zem) where I learnt the overlay or "lineover" technique. You can have a line export and a shadow export in separate images giving more flexibility in photoshop when you are overlaying everything. So basically; render at the bottom, then shadows, then lines.
It would still be better in the long run if you find a solution that does not involve line exports etc....
Love this thread; food for thought and some great contribution!
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