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    • A Offline
      Andrerc
      last edited by

      Hi

      I modeled a model in Tinkercad, Illustrator, and Photoshop together.
      I wanted to use Sketchup to just round of the edges with the Roundcorner plugin.
      So I saved the model as STL from Thinkercad and imported it to SU with the plugin for STL files.

      My model is full of black lines, and because of that, i can't properly round the corners of.
      How do i get rid of that black lines in my model?!?


      Black lines.png

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      • TIGT Offline
        TIG Moderator
        last edited by

        The other apps have triangulated the faces.
        So there are lots of 'coplanar' edges.
        These can be erased using the Eraser to 'wipe them out' [you might need to double-click a group/component to get inside it in an 'edit'], or one of the 'Erase-Coplanar-Edges' tools available to batch process them.
        If you erase a diagonal-edge and its two faces vanish then that edge was not 'coplanar' and is needed to keep the faces.
        This can be common in poorly modeled geometry, where faces that really ought to be coplanar are just off.
        In this case you either need to remodel so the diagonal-edge is no longer needed, of you can 'hide' the edge [Erase+Shift].
        This will leave a visible change in the planes.
        If you want to hide that and have a 'smoothed' appearance then Erase+Ctrl will smooth the edge instead.
        If you want to see [and thereby select/edit] hidden/smoothed edges, you need to use View > Hidden Geometry > ON.
        You can unhide edges by using Erase+Shidt+Ctrl on them.
        To unsmooth an edge or edges you need to select it/them and use Entity-Info to uncheck the appropriate smooth/soft/hidden check-boxes...

        TIG

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        • cottyC Offline
          cotty
          last edited by

          Can you share the model?

          my SketchUp gallery

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          • mitcorbM Offline
            mitcorb
            last edited by

            Hi:
            Here's an image of an interpretation from your image. I made the assumption that the wall thickness was 4" and made assumptions on other dimensions but lengthened the side wings. Modeled one half and mirrored.


            decorativeplanter.PNG

            I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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            • A Offline
              Andrerc
              last edited by

              Here is the file, and, nice rebuild dude ! If someone know how to get rid of them correctly, please do it and send him back here, I would appreciate it so much !


              XB4 Protector.skp

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              • massimoM Offline
                massimo Moderator
                last edited by

                Just manually erase those coplanar lines or use Thomthom's cleanup plugin.


                XB4 Protector.skp

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                • BoxB Offline
                  Box
                  last edited by

                  Select all and use soften smooth. then clean up your edges,

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                  • A Offline
                    Andrerc
                    last edited by

                    What I also got before, was that when I round the edges, some of the triangle faces, just erased themselves...

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                    • TIGT Offline
                      TIG Moderator
                      last edited by

                      If the object is very very small then SketchUp can't cope with very tiny facets [tolerance issue... where very close points are deemed to be coincident]

                      In that case scale it up x10 or x100.
                      Do the radius-ing - jeeping in mind that you need to scale up the radii...
                      Then the tiny facets will form.
                      Then scale it down x0.1 or x0.01...

                      😄

                      TIG

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                      • A Offline
                        Andrerc
                        last edited by

                        Thanks Guys ! When i know select the object, and klick to round corners, he says : Some corners are unable to round off or something like that.

                        Also, like I sais before some faces are gone when I round something, the method from TIG don't works.

                        Is there a way to just select the hole model, click round and is just blends nicely everywhere with nice rounded corners?

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                        • cottyC Offline
                          cotty
                          last edited by

                          There are a lot of very small corners in your design that will not allow you to do a simple round corner for the hole model...


                          smallcorners.jpg

                          my SketchUp gallery

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                            Andrerc
                            last edited by

                            I know, but is there no way to blend it all together? So it just nicely fits?

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                            • TIGT Offline
                              TIG Moderator
                              last edited by

                              To start with... your model is too small.
                              It has tiny facets making rounding impossible.
                              Scale it up x10 or x100 and do the rounding before scaling back down again...

                              BUT it's not as simple as that...
                              Also there are some 'scrappy bits' of modeling - almost coplanar edges, tiny ledges etc.
                              As it's symmetrical I fixed one half and mirror copied it about a centerline.
                              I hope I interpreted what its form should be...
                              I assume you want a 'solid'.
                              It was NOT solid unless you adjusted some aspects.
                              The attached v8 SKP IS a solid and it's been scaled back to your original size.
                              [Units Snapping is still switched off - as having it 'on' makes manual moving of vertices, edges etc all but impossible...]

                              To round corners... scale x10, round assuming x10 in the radii.
                              Scale down x0.1 on completion...
                              🤓


                              XB4 Protector.skp

                              TIG

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                              • cottyC Offline
                                cotty
                                last edited by

                                TIG was faster...

                                and I would suggest to simplify your model too.


                                smallcorners2.jpg

                                my SketchUp gallery

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                                  Andrerc
                                  last edited by

                                  Thanks TIG !

                                  How did you get the lines even cotty?

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                                  • cottyC Offline
                                    cotty
                                    last edited by

                                    @andrerc said:

                                    How did you get the lines even cotty?

                                    I've only used the move tool.

                                    my SketchUp gallery

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                                    • Jean LemireJ Offline
                                      Jean Lemire
                                      last edited by

                                      Hi folks.

                                      Just a trick for those who are using SU Pro : export as dwg and reimport while checking the option to merge coplanar faces.

                                      Just ideas.

                                      Jean (Johnny) Lemire from Repentigny, Quebec, Canada.

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                                        Andrerc
                                        last edited by

                                        Could you send me the file Cotty? TIG's version is not mirrored completely straight...

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                                        • cottyC Offline
                                          cotty
                                          last edited by

                                          @andrerc said:

                                          Could you send me the file Cotty? TIG's version is not mirrored completely straight...

                                          Sorry, I didn't save it because I only changed one face for illustration...

                                          my SketchUp gallery

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                                          • A Offline
                                            Andrerc
                                            last edited by

                                            Ow, could you redo it? Or not, it doesn't work out so well by me. Or could you straighten yours out TIG?

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