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    • B Offline
      Ben Ritter
      last edited by

      Ditto to mitcorb's comments. Thank you!

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      • Dan RathbunD Offline
        Dan Rathbun
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        Why are the toolbar button tooltips just "..." ?

        I'm not here much anymore.

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          pomelo3d
          last edited by

          Thank you.
          This is the result: some good ideas, common sense, listen to the users need for sketchup, fast updates and hard work. And besides it's free

          THANK YOU AGAIN.

          For this year 2014, Trimble team only ask: some good ideas, common sense, need to hear the sketchup users. 😄

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          • TIGT Offline
            TIG Moderator
            last edited by

            @dan rathbun said:

            Why are the toolbar button tooltips just "..." ?
            They have been like that for ages... since when v2013 arrived...
            In >=v2013 the tooltip's text is the combo of the ' tooltip' and ' status_bar_text' methods' values.
            The ' status_bar_text' text no longer appears in the bottom status-bar, as it did in v8...
            In earlier versions you would usually make the two with very similar wording, since they always appeared apart.
            However having the two repeat in the tooltip's text looks odd.
            The ' tooltip' of the toolbar-button's tooltip text clearly tells you its function.
            If the ' status_bar_text' is set then it is used - however we took the view that additional explanation in the tooltip text text was superfluous...
            So we chose '...' - to show that clicking on it gives you further actions...
            We could have used ' ' [<space>], but then the field is empty, and equally odd looking
            If we don't set it, OR we set it to an empty string '' the ' tooltip' is repeated below - which looks illogical - with the tooltip's text being an 'echo' !

            That's why. 🤓

            TIG

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            • Rich O BrienR Online
              Rich O Brien Moderator
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              @tig said:

              If we don't set it, OR we set it to an empty string '' the ' tooltip' is repeated below - which looks illogical - with the tooltip's text being an 'echo' !

              That's why. 🤓

              Can't the secondary tip differ from the primary tip?

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              • TIGT Offline
                TIG Moderator
                last edited by

                @Rich

                Of course we can have it say whatever you want...

                BUT what more do you want to say ?
                Currently it's
                SketchUcation Plugin Store ...

                More is easily added... but I don't think additional info will enhance it 😕
                SketchUcation Plugin Store Clicking on this button opens a dialog which allows you to AutoInstall and Update Plugins...etc
                😒

                If you want changes try editing the SCF_loader.rb and the .status_bar_text= for each tool...
                cmd.="..."
                to
                cmd.status_bar_text="Clicking on this button opens a dialog which allows you to AutoInstall and Update Plugins...etc"
                OR better still add new Constants to the ../Strings/SCF-EN-US.strings file and use those Constant as the .status_bar_text=
                For example, in the file
                ../Strings/SCF-EN-US.strings
                add
                SBAR="Clicking on this button opens a dialog which allows you to AutoInstall and Update Plugins...etc"
                then
                cmd.tooltip="#{DESC}" cmd.status_bar_text="#{SBAR}"

                Make one Constant for each of the three button cmds:
                ` DESC="...
                SBAR="...

                MDESC="...
                MSBAR="...

                XDESC="...
                XSBAR="...`

                This 'strings' version allows translations to other locales...

                Note: in v8 the ' tooltip' text appears in the button onMouseOver and the ' status_bar_text' text is in the status-bar at the bottom, but in >=v2013 the tooltip's text is a combo of the ' tooltip' and ' status_bar_text'...
                The 'loader' rb sets a 'redundant' .tooltip= for the non-toolbar [menu-only] cmds - these are never displayed [just there in case a toolbar-button ever got added]: however, it also sets .status_bar_text= for the non-toolbar [menu-only] cmds - this is also 'redundant' in newer versions of SketchUp, BUT in v8 onMouseOver for the menu item it will display that text in the status-bar.

                @Rich let me know your thoughts...

                TIG

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                  kaas
                  last edited by

                  Very nice update! Especially to be able to update all installed plugins at once. Many thanks for that! 👍

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                    jpalm32
                    last edited by

                    Nice work guys! 👍 👍

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                    • Rich O BrienR Online
                      Rich O Brien Moderator
                      last edited by

                      Updated to 2.5.1

                      Addressed some bulk update issues

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                        frlic
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                        When I open SU 2013 PRO, there is a message Load Errors (please see attached picture). I have XP. When I press the OK button, the appearance of the icons of the Plugin Store.


                        difficult to open plugin in XP

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                        • TIGT Offline
                          TIG Moderator
                          last edited by

                          @frlic said:

                          When I open SU 2013 PRO, there is a message Load Errors (please see attached picture). I have XP. When I press the OK button, the appearance of the icons of the Plugin Store.
                          This is strange. 😕
                          I have the exact same SUp version and when I install the tool I do not get these errors.
                          How did you install to toolset?
                          You must restart SketchUp to effect the changes ??
                          If you AutoInstall from the older PluginStore dialog it should warn you if you have insufficient security permissions to add files to the Plugins folder.
                          Or did you try to install it from a downloaded RBZ file, using the Preferences > Extensions > Install... button >
                          Can I suggest you check your Plugins folders permissions...
                          As an Admin > context-menu > Properties > Security > Edit...
                          All entries should be FULL read/write ...

                          Having a link/button named 'Compatibility Files...' in the top-bars of the Windows Explorer window for the Plugins folder, that's a sure sign of wrong permissions...

                          Therefore you might not have all of the plugin's files properly installed...

                          CAn I also suggest you remove the !SketchUcation_loader.rb and the SketchUcation subfolder from the Plugins folder.
                          Then Install a fresh version of the plugin...

                          Report back if you still get error messages... 😕

                          TIG

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                            m625
                            last edited by

                            Anyone else experiencing the whole thing crashing when you try to install from inside the plugin?

                            [mod=:14fmud1g]Fixed: Followed the permissions instructions above.[/mod:14fmud1g]

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                              pomelo3d
                              last edited by

                              a query.
                              In version 2, the list of recent plugin could see a list of all plugin chronologically ordered.
                              In version 2.5, the list of recent plugin, you can only see the last 20 plugin. this feature will ever change?

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                                Gábor
                                last edited by

                                @pomelo3d said:

                                a query.
                                In version 2, the list of recent plugin could see a list of all plugin chronologically ordered.
                                In version 2.5, the list of recent plugin, you can only see the last 20 plugin. this feature will ever change?

                                In v2 you also should have seen only the last 20 plugins in the recent list. Only the full list lists all the plugins in the store. (Therefore it takes some time to load...)

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                                  pomelo3d
                                  last edited by

                                  If, in version 2 are seen 20 plugin, but when I slide down the sidebar plugin loaded another 20, and so on. no?

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                                    Gábor
                                    last edited by

                                    @pomelo3d said:

                                    If, in version 2 are seen 20 plugin, but when I slide down the sidebar plugin loaded another 20, and so on. no?

                                    No. But it's a good suggestion for the further development. 😄

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                                      pomelo3d
                                      last edited by

                                      yes.

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                                      • kenK Offline
                                        ken
                                        last edited by

                                        I have two computers, a desktop at home and a laptop, which I use when I have to go to the office. So that now that I can see which plugins require updating on the desktop, I was wondering, is there a file I can copy from my desktop to my laptop, such that when I do a check on what plugins need updating on the laptop, the program would also show which plugins are missing on the laptop and need to be downloaded.

                                        This way I could keep the laptop in sync with the desktop.

                                        Thanks in advance. This program was much needed.

                                        Ken

                                        Fight like your the third monkey on Noah's Ark gangway.

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                                          Gábor
                                          last edited by

                                          Hi Ken,
                                          In the future releases we plan to implement such a feature you're looking for. Until then in the "My Downloads" list you can see those plugins what you've ever downloaded from the pluginstore on any computer. At the moment no feature to port the "My installs" but it is on our "To Do List".

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                                          • TIGT Offline
                                            TIG Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            Yes 😄

                                            A future version might well have a new 'My Syncs' tab - where you will be able to see what plugins you have installed on your current computer/SketchUp-version, AND also those extra ones on other computers/SketchUp-versions [provided you have accessed the PluginStore at least once from these alternative computers/SketchUp-versions], and then it'll offer you the chance to AutoInstall the missing ones - either clicked individually or in bulk [like the 'Update all' button in 'My Updates']...

                                            We are [hopefully] anticipating your needs/desires, and much of the needed codes is already available.
                                            We just need to assemble it and beta test etc...
                                            However, please do make suggestions for enhancements - there's always going to be something we haven't thought of 😉

                                            TIG

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