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    • BoxB Offline
      Box
      last edited by

      @polynechramorph said:

      I think I'll wait for something truly clever though. πŸ˜„

      Truly clever would be posting the model or, at the very least, an image so we have some semblance of chance of seeing what is wrong. 😲

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        Polynechramorph
        last edited by

        OK found it. although only by chance. It seemed to be a microscopic tear in the sketch time continuum. Something on the surface that was there but at the same time not there. Possibly a previously unknown spontaneous transitioning sketch-quantum particle.

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          Polynechramorph
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          I can export it through a plug in I got here off the forum iges_export.rb
          I downloaded a trial version of Autodesk Maya 2014 but I can't see a damn thing when I open the file and the program is well... massive ,new and overwhelming quite frankly. πŸ˜•
          The iges_export seemed to export without any errors and the file size would indicate that there is a substantial file there (9mb) too big for here. I could scale down and re-export it and see how small I can get the file...

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            Polynechramorph
            last edited by

            rescaling seems to have no effect on the resulting exported .igs file size. I've gone down by a factor of 1000 now and no difference.

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            • Dave RD Offline
              Dave R
              last edited by

              I wouldn't expect scaling the model to reduce the file size because scaling doesn't reduce the number of entities (edges and faces) in the model.

              Etaoin Shrdlu

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              • BoxB Offline
                Box
                last edited by

                9meg is probably about right. You could zip it and post it or PM it.

                You might find the a simple .igs viewer more useful. such as http://igsviewer.com/

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                • BoxB Offline
                  Box
                  last edited by

                  I just noticed the reason you can't see a damn thing in maya, as you put it, might be because in the file you posted earlier the calipers are 28m from the origin, so when you open it it is probably tiny and way off to the side somewhere.

                  Always model close to the global origin.

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                  • Dave RD Offline
                    Dave R
                    last edited by

                    It's likely that the model wound up 28m from the origin due to scaling up to work on tiny geometry and back down again. If you do that using the Scale tool, use the same handle for both scaling up and back down. As I wrote about in an earlier post, I leave the original component where it sits and scale up a copy. Once finished editing the enlarged copy, I get out of edit mode and delete the big one. This leaves the original small component in place near the origin with all of the editing done.

                    An alternative method of scaling up and back down is via the Tape Measure tool. Measure a known length making sure to click at each end. Type a new, larger length and hit Enter. When you are ready to scale back down, measure the same distance and type the correct distance. Hit Enter. The model will get scaled up and back down maintaining the same position relative to the axes. and origin.

                    Etaoin Shrdlu

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                      Polynechramorph
                      last edited by

                      I keep getting an error from the IGS viewer and it freezes up but only when I try to open this one file. If I make a simple shape and export it to the viewer it works fine (thanks for that tip πŸ˜„ ).
                      Here is a copy of my .skp file which doesn't seem to want to export properly. I'm at my wits end 😞
                      The model had been moved back to the planar center several days ago when I was made aware of the scaling mistake I had made.
                      Any help would be very appreciated.

                      I suspect something has gone wrong with the surface of the main calliper piece as is exhibits strange characteristics when I try to alter it in any way.

                      I tried making engraved (extruded) lines on the surface but this just caused a whole mess of errors that when auto-corrected always resulted in the top surface being deleted and the ends of the tiny engraved "ditches" to be deleted as well. Very strange. The simple pattern I've now successfully placed on the surface was very tedious. The lines kept drawing not directly on the surface so that I had to draw almost all of them individually. Copying sections of them produced thousands of tiny mistakes in the solid inspector.

                      Thanks for any help.


                      1ccallipersScale1a3.skp

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                      • gillesG Offline
                        gilles
                        last edited by

                        Please, post the model in V8.

                        " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                          Polynechramorph
                          last edited by

                          And here in V8


                          1ccallipersScale1a31.skp

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                          • Dave RD Offline
                            Dave R
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                            I wonder if the scaling has caused you some issues. The definitions of the components are at different scales. In your V13 as I downloaded it, the main bar component measures 17800mm long overall. It is scaled up from the original size. Component #2 is also scaled up from its original size. Their component definitions were created when those components were correctly sized. The other four component definitions were created at this scaled up size. Perhaps the IGS file shows the components at their definition-defined sizes?

                            The fix at this stage would be to correct the scale of the entire model--scale back down to life size--then explode the four components that need their definitions corrected and make new components of them.

                            This scale thing is another reason I use the process I've described when working on small components. It avoids this problem altogether.

                            Etaoin Shrdlu

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                              Polynechramorph
                              last edited by

                              Thank you all very much for all your help! I've manged to create a file that I can export and use and am now with a very much altered design in the prototyping stage.
                              This thread can be closed now.

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                                afnanfahmi
                                last edited by

                                hi, can u guys check my model, mine also does not contain solid elements, it said something wrong with the surface border, hope anyone could repair it for me


                                WL Wax.skp

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                                  TIG Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  You have some convoluted intersecting edges/faces at one internal corner.
                                  I found that deleting the geometry relating to it and the two 'spikes', then adding one new edge back in made it a solid...
                                  It's easier if you use Monochrome mode and un-smooth all of the edges...


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                                  TIG

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                                    afnanfahmi
                                    last edited by

                                    thanks man, thanks for the monochrome tips too

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