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  • K Offline
    Krisidious
    last edited by 9 Aug 2013, 23:12

    The first link is the original image. I could trace it but she doesn't want me to because it's already been done and she sees that as double work. She's old school and won't convert to computer aided...

    By: Kristoff Rand
    Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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      Dave R
      last edited by 10 Aug 2013, 00:20

      That image is huge! So when you reduce it to fit onto the page, you're reducing the width of the lines by the same amount so they hardly show up. They are also pretty light so that's another strike against you. Can you get a smaller version of the image?

      This is a screen shot of a section as displayed in an image editor at full size.
      Capture.PNG

      This isn't a fault of SketchUp or LayOut.

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        Dave R
        last edited by 10 Aug 2013, 00:57

        Take a look at these files. It may not be perfect but it's a lot better than before. I bumped up the contrast and reduced the lighness of the image and then I cropped it into two images. I imported the images as you did in your SKP file. On the first page of the PDF and LO file are the viewports for the two scenes I made in the SKP file. The second page has just the images inserted and roughly sized to match those on the first page.

        This could be better if the original image file wasn't so large/high res and if it was darker.

        GrafelmanFlrPlans1.png
        GrafelmanFlrPlans2.png


        grafelman-III_DR.pdf


        grafelmanIII_DR.layout

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          Krisidious
          last edited by 10 Aug 2013, 01:51

          It was supposed to be 24"x36" and checking it, it seems to be. that's standard architectural size. although I see it's 300ppi which is pretty intense. i see what you're saying about being so large that it shrinks the view, but a 24x36 image on a 24x36 layout file should show up correctly.

          By: Kristoff Rand
          Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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            Dave R
            last edited by 10 Aug 2013, 01:59

            I used the paper size you had selected in your LO file. I just deleted your content. I didn't change the paper size.

            I think we're going round and round here. Evidently I'm not able to help.

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              Krisidious
              last edited by 10 Aug 2013, 02:15

              The work around works... I just want to know why the file doesn't covert over with the same resolution in SU to Layout. I can see it fine in SU. then in Layout it gets blurry... I think this is a layout issue. Not a process issue.

              By: Kristoff Rand
              Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                Krisidious
                last edited by 11 Aug 2013, 03:38

                Ahhh... That's very good Charlie. Thanks.

                By: Kristoff Rand
                Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                  Charlie__V
                  last edited by 11 Aug 2013, 03:46

                  Krisidious,
                  If I may........offer a (better/~~precise??)method for scaling an image.....in LO.

                  Set Sheet (Page) size.......this case 24"x36" (ArchD)

                  Display Grid....set major grid lines to 1" & minor grid lines to 4 (¼") for ¼" Scale
                  Select tickbox to display grid on top.

                  Insert image (floorplans)...scale (shift/constrained)roughly to scale.

                  Align an edge of a "known" entity's edge to a Major Grid Line.......re-scale up/dn.....if/as..........re-position "known" edge to Major Grid Line.......refine......if/as.

                  Yes......a bit cumbersom (perhaps 2 to 3x the effort) as compared to SU native functions to scale imported image.......but equally accurate...........and for your concern.......sharper output.(in my opinion)

                  Please review/comment on attached.

                  Best,
                  Charlie


                  LO File W/Imported (croppped .png)


                  LO....Low Quality Export.pdf (Due to Site Limit)

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                    Dave R
                    last edited by 11 Aug 2013, 11:54

                    I said at the beginning that you'd get better results if you just inserted the image and scaled it.

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                      Charlie__V
                      last edited by 11 Aug 2013, 15:18

                      @dave r said:

                      I said at the beginning that you'd get better results if you just inserted the image and scaled it.

                      Dave,
                      It's not clear to me if you are speaking to me or the OP.

                      If me, I was attempting to share a method for scaling an image in LO using the Grid.

                      Charlie

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                        Krisidious
                        last edited by 11 Aug 2013, 16:45

                        And that's what I did Dave... If you look at my first reply to you... That's what I said in the end of my first post and in my reply to you.. But that's a workaround. The point of this is not how to get it done. I'm a fairly resourceful guy. I can get stuff done. I just want to know why the texture that shows up fine in SU is blurred and fuzzy in Layout. It shouldn't be... Whatever image or texture shows through SU should show exactly the same in Layout. scaling by for lack of a better term "pushpulling" an image in increments is not a viable or proper method of scaling for architectural drawings.

                        I told Charlie that was good because it is a plausible workaround I had not considered, and he didn't allude to the issue of SU and Layout not communicating correctly.

                        By: Kristoff Rand
                        Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                          Krisidious
                          last edited by 11 Aug 2013, 16:47

                          Don't think I don't appreciate you Dave... You're one of the most helpful people I know.

                          By: Kristoff Rand
                          Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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