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    • Dan RathbunD Offline
      Dan Rathbun
      last edited by

      Oh and BTW... batch mode processing is easier on Windows as the same document window is reused, so that their is only ever ONE model file open, at a time.

      Mac SketchUp will open a new document window for EVERY file in the folder, because there is no way via the API to close model windows.

      The API does NOT have a built-in interface to simulate user keystrokes (in order to dismiss modal dialogs, etc.)

      You would have to use a 3rd-party utility. Some use Applescript on Mac.

      I'm not here much anymore.

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      • Dan RathbunD Offline
        Dan Rathbun
        last edited by

        @driven said:

        @dan rathbun said:

        (2) Read the Terms of Use regarding using (or forbidding use of,) SketchUp in an "automated manner".

        my take on this is as long as your 'offline' you are not overburdening, Trimble's services in any way, in which case you can use 'Automator.app' to sequentially open and perform actions on your files.

        Yes that also makes sense to me.. but I have also had to deal with lawyers in the past, and they come from a galaxy far far away... and do not think like us mere mortals.

        YES I DO know how to do it. BUT I am wary of distributing such a utility (which I have already written to about 90% done.)

        I'm not here much anymore.

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        • K Offline
          keithswd
          last edited by

          I could do it Windows (via Parallels). Or perhaps process the components within a single model:
          Load component from file
          Set attributes
          Save component back to file
          Delete component instance
          Purge component
          Next

          I'll get reading the Newbie guides... Thanks again.

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          • D Offline
            driven
            last edited by

            hi Keith,
            the first bits relatively easy. if you paste this into 'Ruby Console' and hit 'return' it will open and mod all the .skp's found. Personally I find 'shadows_face_sun' a bit odd looking...

            # add your folder your path replaces this
            loadFolder =  "/your/path" 
            
            skpFiles = Dir[File.join( loadFolder, "*.skp" )]
            
            #open the files
            skpFiles.each {|f| 
            Sketchup.open_file f;
            # do your ruby actions
            Sketchup.active_model.selection.to_a.find_all{|e|e.class==Sketchup;;ComponentInstance}.map{|i|i.definition}.each{|d|d.behavior.always_face_camera=true; d.behavior.shadows_face_sun = true}
            }
            

            once there all done, you can either use Cmd "S" to save them, and if in the correct format Cmd "W" to close...

            alternatively, you could run this Applescript which will do the save and click any drop-downs that appear.
            for some reason it stalls on some windows, but if you click the error box and then 'Run' again it carries on.
            Run in Applescript Editor after all the skps are open...

            activate application "SketchUp"
            tell application "System Events"
            	tell process "SketchUp"
            		set winCount to count of every window
            		repeat with n from 1 to winCount
            			if description of window n is "standard window" then
            			set thisWindow to window n
            				try
            					if exists (click menu item "Save" of menu "File" of menu bar 1) then
            					end if
            				end try
            				delay 0.5
            				try
            					if exists (click button "Save" of sheet 1 of thisWindow) then
            					end if
            				end try
            				delay 0.5
            				try
            					if exists (click button "Replace" of sheet 1 of sheet 1 of thisWindow) then
            					end if
            				end try
            				delay 0.5
            				try
            					if exists (click menu item "Close" of menu "File" of menu bar 1) then
            					end if
            				end try
            			end if
            		end repeat
            	end tell
            end tell
            

            learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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            • K Offline
              keithswd
              last edited by

              Driven - Thanks so much for taking the time to write that up for me.

              Unfortunately I don't think this approach will work as it seems that it opens all the files in the folder in one go? I have hundreds of files to process (although I could put them into a working folder in batches I suppose). I am going to try modifying your code to get the array of *.skp files in the folder, then sequentially load each one as a component, modify it, save it back to the folder, delete and purge the instance, and move on to the next file. It seems like that will avoid the issue of not being able to close the current model via Ruby, and will only open one component at a time.

              cheers Keith

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              • K Offline
                keithswd
                last edited by

                This code appears to work on a test folder of 10 .skp files. Haven't let it loose on the main folder of 500!

                model = Sketchup.active_model
                
                # set folder and get array of filenames
                loadFolder = "/Users/Keith/Illustration Library/Testfolder"
                skpFiles = Dir[File.join(loadFolder, "*.skp")]
                
                
                # Returns a DefinitionList
                definitions = model.definitions
                
                # iterate through files
                
                skpFiles.each do |compFile|
                	compDefinition = definitions.load compFile
                	behavior = compDefinition.behavior
                	behavior.always_face_camera = true
                	behavior.shadows_face_sun = true
                	compDefinition.save_as compFile
                	definitions.purge_unused
                	end
                

                no error handling of course so it's a bit 'quick and dirty'.

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                • Dan RathbunD Offline
                  Dan Rathbun
                  last edited by

                  @unknownuser said:

                  This code appears to work on a test folder of 10 .skp files. Haven't let it loose on the main folder of 500!

                  no error handling of course so it's a bit 'quick and dirty'.

                  Yes make backups first.

                  And when it comes to file work trapping errors is best.

                  I would think that the user would be prompted to overwrite the old skp file.

                  You don't see a confirm MB on the Mac ?

                  I'm not here much anymore.

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                  • TIGT Offline
                    TIG Moderator
                    last edited by

                    If you make a subfolder then you can save the reformatted SKPs into there and leave the original SKPs alone...
                    That way you never change the original SKPs' data and don't need prompts etc... 😕

                    TIG

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                    • K Offline
                      keithswd
                      last edited by

                      As the code stands it runs without any prompts at all. It processed 10 files in the folder in an instant. For my purposes I'd rather manually copy files to be processed into the folder and run the script unattended, knowing I had my own backups. It's only for me to use so I c an leave it rough and ready... Might be nice to select the folder via the file open dialog, other than that I think it serves my needs

                      Thanks to all for the help and encouragement.

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                      • Dan RathbunD Offline
                        Dan Rathbun
                        last edited by

                        @unknownuser said:

                        Might be nice to select the folder via the file open dialog, ...

                        folder = UI.openpanel("Choose a skp file to set folder","*.skp")
                        if folder && folder = File.dirname(folder)
                          # do your stuff
                        end
                        

                        I'm not here much anymore.

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                        • D Offline
                          driven
                          last edited by

                          @unknownuser said:

                          Thanks to all for the help and encouragement.

                          no problem Keith,
                          we need to encourage mac users who are prepared to dip into coding, we're in a minority,
                          if nothing else, there are always PC authored scripts that need a bit of ironing before they're fully mac compatible.

                          @dan wrote a good 'chunking' script for me to process a 3D text sampler that may be useful/adaptable for handling a 500 file array. I'll see if I can find the link.
                          FOUND: http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=48761&p=444342&hilit=3d+text+chunk#p444342
                          john

                          PS, are you in London UK, or one of the impostors, I'm in East Dulwich?

                          learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                          • K Offline
                            keithswd
                            last edited by

                            Ah - I was wondering what might happen if I loaded a really huge folder - actually I have a couple of thousand file to process. Not all at once though... I will check out that link when I have more time, at first glance looks a bit scary for a novice!

                            Yes, I really am in London UK (live in W14, work SE11)!

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                            • K Offline
                              keithswd
                              last edited by

                              Thanks Dan for the pointer to UI.openpanel, that all works fine.

                              Not sure if it is because I need to learn about chunking my array, but my routine stops every time after processing 33 or 34 files (it is always after 33 or 34 files) and then SU8 crashes. Given that such a small number of files are processed before the hang/crash, I am not sure the array size is the problem? When the script stops running, I am left with the last loaded component in the component list. If I try and and check its 'Face-Me' status, SU crashes.

                              def setcompfm
                              
                              model = Sketchup.active_model
                              # set folder and get array of filenames
                              folder = UI.openpanel("Choose a skp file to set folder","*.skp")
                              
                              if folder && folder = File.dirname(folder)
                              	skpFiles = Dir[File.join(folder, "*.skp")]
                              end
                              
                              length = skpFiles.length
                              
                              result = UI.messagebox "Process " + length.to_s + " files?", MB_YESNO
                              
                              if result == 6 # Yes
                              
                              # Returns a DefinitionList
                              definitions = model.definitions
                              
                              # iterate through files
                              begin
                              
                              	skpFiles.each do |compFile|
                              
                              		compDefinition = definitions.load compFile
                              		behavior = compDefinition.behavior
                              		behavior.always_face_camera = true
                              		behavior.shadows_face_sun = true
                              		compDefinition.save_as compFile
                              		definitions.purge_unused
                              
                              	end #end do
                              
                              rescue
                              	puts compFile
                              
                              end #end begin
                              
                              end #end if
                              
                              end #end def
                              
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                              • Dan RathbunD Offline
                                Dan Rathbun
                                last edited by

                                The folder check was meant to enclose everything... but I see you have a empty folder check (which probably cannot happen because an actual file must be selected. BUT...

                                change line 7 to:
                                return unless folder && folder = File.dirname(folder)

                                REMOVE the end (line 9)

                                If you cancel the open panel, NOW your method exits (because the result of UI.openpanel will eval falsely.)

                                I'm not here much anymore.

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                                • Dan RathbunD Offline
                                  Dan Rathbun
                                  last edited by

                                  change the name of THAT 33rd or 34th file to ".OFF" or whatever.

                                  Then try again. Just eliminate the bad file scenario.

                                  I'm not here much anymore.

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                                  • K Offline
                                    keithswd
                                    last edited by

                                    Thanks for the correction - I see my mistake now. However, the corrected syntax doesn't fix the crash. The folder selection works as it did before and populates the array with all the .skp files in the folder (about 200 for testing purposes), and my message box pops up and correctly reports the number to be processed.

                                    However it stops on the 33rd or 34th file no matter what that file is. Each time I run the script, I move the 33/34 successfully modified files out of the folder, so I am never processing the same files twice. I don't know what might be special about the 33/34 mark, but it bails at that point.

                                    Some kind of limit appears to be reached? Memory? I've no clue!

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                                    • D Offline
                                      driven
                                      last edited by

                                      not sure how to do it in ruby but in the osascript/applescript/bash I tend to use, if you don't add a distinct delay point, the process reaches some limit and errors. [That's what happening with the one I posted earlier]

                                      maybe adding a puts "done" after definitions.purge_unused will allow a break before opening the next?

                                      total stab in the dark
                                      john

                                      learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                                      • Dan RathbunD Offline
                                        Dan Rathbun
                                        last edited by

                                        (1) The iterator block.. use curly braces instead of do ... end
                                        So the block can have access to external references, such as definitions

                                        (2) Make sure the loading is done before proceeding.

                                        (3) perhaps use undo operations ?

                                        Try an iterator like:

                                          i = 0
                                          puts()
                                          #
                                          skpFiles.each { |compFile|
                                            ###
                                            model.operation( "Update '#{File.basename(compFile)}'", true )
                                            ###
                                            compDefinition = definitions.load compFile
                                            begin
                                              if compDefinition.internal?
                                                behavior = compDefinition.behavior
                                                behavior.always_face_camera = true
                                                behavior.shadows_face_sun = true
                                                compDefinition.save_as compFile
                                              else
                                                putc(46) # period char
                                                redo
                                              end
                                            rescue => e
                                              ###
                                              model.abort_operation()
                                              ###
                                              puts()
                                              puts "ERROR saving component file;"
                                              puts "  #{compFile}\n"
                                              puts e.message
                                              puts e.backtrace if $VERBOSE
                                              puts()
                                            else
                                              i += 1
                                              if i >= 10
                                                definitions.purge_unused
                                                i = 0
                                              end
                                              ###
                                              model.commit_operation()
                                              ###
                                            end
                                            # each skp file
                                          }
                                          definitions.purge_unused if definitions.length > 0
                                        
                                        

                                        I'm not here much anymore.

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                                        • K Offline
                                          keithswd
                                          last edited by

                                          Thanks again for your help and suggested code. As it stands it does not modify any components. I discovered this is because it seems that even when the component file is loaded successfully, compDefinition.internal? returns false. I can only imagine that this is actually testing whether the component was created within the model or loaded from a file - in which case we are getting the expected result. I commented it out and it runs but... sadly it still bombs out at around 33 components.

                                          I really don't want to take up any more of anyone's time - this was just a little project for me to play with but it seems rather trickier than I could have forseen. But I thought you might like an update!

                                          def setcompfm
                                          
                                          model = Sketchup.active_model
                                          # set folder and get array of filenames
                                          folder = UI.openpanel("Choose a skp file to set folder","*.skp")
                                          
                                          return unless folder && folder = File.dirname(folder)
                                          
                                          skpFiles = Dir[File.join(folder, "*.skp")]
                                          
                                          length = skpFiles.length
                                          
                                          result = UI.messagebox "Process " + length.to_s + " files?", MB_YESNO
                                          
                                          return unless result == 6 # Yes
                                          
                                          # Returns a DefinitionList
                                          definitions = model.definitions
                                          
                                          # iterate through files
                                          i = 0
                                            puts()
                                            #
                                            skpFiles.each { |compFile|
                                              ###
                                              model.start_operation( "Update '#{File.basename(compFile)}'", true )
                                              ###
                                              compDefinition = definitions.load compFile
                                              begin
                                                #if compDefinition.internal?
                                                  behavior = compDefinition.behavior
                                                  behavior.always_face_camera = true
                                                  behavior.shadows_face_sun = true
                                                  compDefinition.save_as compFile
                                                #else
                                                #  putc(46) # period char
                                                #  redo
                                                #end
                                              rescue => e
                                                ###
                                                model.abort_operation()
                                                ###
                                                puts()
                                                puts "ERROR saving component file;"
                                                puts "  #{compFile}\n"
                                                puts e.message
                                                puts e.backtrace if $VERBOSE
                                                puts()
                                              else
                                                i += 1
                                                if i >= 10
                                                  definitions.purge_unused
                                                  i = 0
                                                end
                                                ###
                                                model.commit_operation()
                                                ###
                                              end
                                              # each skp file
                                            }
                                            definitions.purge_unused if definitions.length > 0
                                          
                                          
                                          end #end def
                                          
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                                          • D Offline
                                            driven
                                            last edited by

                                            Hi Keith,

                                            I'm sitting at home recovering from having my ear cut off [and put back on] on Friday.
                                            So, glad for the distraction...
                                            Anyhow, heres an Automator script that has a safe test action, so won't hurt any files...
                                            I missed a filter function, in the first...

                                            1. opens each .skp in a 'pre-selected' folder in SU v2013 [should use your version if not]
                                            2. opens 'Ruby Console' and 'types' some safe for testing code Sketchup.send_action('viewIso:');Sketchup.send_action('viewZoomExtents:')clicks return
                                            3. 'Saves' the changes
                                            4. closes 'RC'
                                            5. closes the .skp
                                            6. loops to the next skp in folder... and repeats

                                            You need to open SU first with an empty new drawing... this just saves hassle.
                                            Pre-Sellect skps in a Folder.
                                            Open the workflow in 'Automator.app' by double clicking after unzipping it.

                                            Click Run, watch the show [I like the way it types for me, rather than just inserting it en-masse]

                                            If your not using v2013 you'll may need replace the SketchUp.app shown with the one on your path [I know it looks right but I did a trick to avoid using v8, so just swap it if you need to, run it once to see if it fails...]

                                            Once your happy the safe version works, edit the applescript with your SU [a 'one-liner' is probably best]

                                            try it on a subset, if it runs those, it will run hundreds as long as you adjust the timeout [in loop field] to cover it...

                                            Let me know if it works

                                            john

                                            learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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