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    • L Offline
      leminilab
      last edited by

      I'm always impressed to see real world hand/mouth-crafted objects! 😲

      Spindle Pendant is a fun one to model. I couldn't resist trying...

      Flora's glass may be achieved more easily with texturing rather than modelling...
      Unfortunately, I use Thea Render and can't help you with Maxwell as far as texturing goes...

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      • Rich O BrienR Offline
        Rich O Brien Moderator
        last edited by

        Image 1.png

        I think hard surface modelling is the best approach here.

        Lofting will get good results but controlling segments will give you headaches

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          mb976
          last edited by

          @rich o brien said:

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          I think hard surface modelling is the best approach here.

          Lofting will get good results but controlling segments will give you headaches

          @RIch: Excuse my ignorance, but how exactly have you done that? Is that a follow me of a line around a 16 sided polygon followed by Subdivide & Smooth from Artisan Tools?

          Thanks.

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          • Rich O BrienR Offline
            Rich O Brien Moderator
            last edited by

            Lathed for 8 segment then inserted geometry where needed...

            Image 2.png

            ...as you can see the more you introduce the more control you get over the final result.

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            • L Offline
              leminilab
              last edited by

              Here's my attempt at your Spindle:
              rothschildbickers - Spindle.jpg

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              • R Offline
                rspierenburg
                last edited by

                And to think, modelling these lights is probably 1/1000th as hard as making them in real life. Very impressive.

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                • Rich O BrienR Offline
                  Rich O Brien Moderator
                  last edited by

                  Nice result πŸ‘

                  Image 3.png

                  The more complicated lamp took less than time to model than the other one πŸ˜’

                  Though SU crunched some numbers before displaying a result

                  organic-lamps.png

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                  • L Offline
                    leminilab
                    last edited by

                    A quick test render:
                    Spindle.png

                    No doubt the true master is you for crafting these! πŸ‘ to you!

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                    • pbacotP Offline
                      pbacot
                      last edited by

                      luscious! Rich are those all watertight (double-wall) forms?
                      Some nice designs-- should be great rendering your products with different lights.

                      Upgrade that Mac. Mark (get a new 8 core). You work deserves it.

                      MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                      • Rich O BrienR Offline
                        Rich O Brien Moderator
                        last edited by

                        Single walled Peter

                        But Thea has nice preset thick glass materials

                        If I get time ill do a screen cast. Busy with other stuff. But enjoyed taking time out to make these.

                        They are beautiful lamps you guys make.

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                          solo
                          last edited by

                          I guess I get the easy one.

                          Double thick glass.

                          light glass.jpg

                          thea glass.jpg

                          glass thing.jpg

                          http://www.solos-art.com

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                            leminilab
                            last edited by

                            No thickness for me, just a single sided mesh with clear glass material.
                            I added a studio IBL and Mr Pete Stoppel's studio and it's done!

                            I'm still amazed that you actually manufacture those!

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                              mb976
                              last edited by

                              Wow!! You guys can rock this stuff out so quickly, we struggle along for ages and end up with something that kind of looks like what we are after.

                              We are only very, very basic with sketchup, but are really enjoying the potential to communicate with our clients. Would love to see a bit more detail in how you chaps are getting to these results, are there any good resources for this kind of modelling. We are keen to get a good understanding of best practice etc.

                              Ideally we would like the objects to have a double wall as we probably won't be photo rendering very much and I guess this will give us the most realistic output from sketchup...

                              We are sort of getting some results out of artisan but have only just started using it, with the Vintage light is it best to model in the flat, pull up the concentric rings and then alter the points to determine the waves before using artisan...

                              Sorry for basic questions, we are better at glass blowing than 3d modelling...and thanks for the kind comments, much appreciated.

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                              • Rich O BrienR Offline
                                Rich O Brien Moderator
                                last edited by

                                The modeling isn't all that hard. It is probably related to workflow as to why you are not getting quick results.

                                There's no real tuts out there because the shape requires a basic understand of hard surface modeling. Once you learn the basics then skies the limit.

                                You'll also find people tend not to share the steps because when you show an example it can lead to 50 other questions and time is money for a lot folks.

                                Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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                                  solo
                                  last edited by

                                  Attached is the proxy, subdivide and smooth as needed, get an idea of how the proxy looks.

                                  glass thing1.png

                                  glass thing.skp

                                  http://www.solos-art.com

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                                  • bazB Offline
                                    baz
                                    last edited by

                                    Hi Mark, love your work.
                                    You might want to check out this thread...

                                    http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=335&t=42938&hilit=artisan

                                    ...lots of great examples of organic modelling inc. glass.

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                                      mb976
                                      last edited by

                                      Thank you so much for your help chaps, it is really amazing to see how Sketchup has been redefined as a program, the organic modelling is exactly what we need!!

                                      The examples is the thread suggested by baz really give a newbie like me a great idea of how the proxy shape guides Artisan to create the curves...very, very interesting.

                                      We will keep on learning the hard modelling side so we have understanding and flexibility to create the proxy's we need, thanks again, you have all been very helpful.

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