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    • Alan FraserA Offline
      Alan Fraser
      last edited by

      Hi Joe,
      Jpg is a lossy format. That is, if you mess about with it...especially resizing it...it will start to lose definition and get blurry, especially the fine lines and text. It's okay for digital photographs, when you tend not to notice these things, but not good for line drawings.
      Personally, I'd think about using Tif format. Tiffs can be very large compared to jpgs when in full colour, but a simple black and white or greyscale is usually much smaller It is also the standard image format for the publishing industry because it is lossless...lines and text will stay sharp. Png files are lossless too.
      If you're bringing them into Corel, I'd also consider not bothering to resize them beforehand. just bring them in full size (if your PC can stand it). Just import them one on top of the other, then select and resize them all in one go before arranging them on the sheet.
      Whatever size page you are contemplating, if you have to resize them, I'd work on the basis of having images of 300 dpi (dots per inch) for best quality. Therefore, whether you are having them on an 11" page or two across a 2ft sheet, either way they are going to be the best part of a foot wide and therefore would need to be approaching 3600 pixels. Maybe you could consider exporting at 3000-3500 pixels wide and not bothering to resize at all.

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      • jeff hammondJ Offline
        jeff hammond
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        [alan- yes.. i agree with your methods and definitely overcook these numbers when i'm doing my own stuff.. 600ppi? sure, why not ๐Ÿ˜„]

        it's just that joe says things like "still using a pretty old win xp machine that's starting to act up on me." and "trying to keep the file size down.."

        so what i'm going for up there is minimums for an acceptable print..

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        • Alan FraserA Offline
          Alan Fraser
          last edited by

          Yes Jeff, Joe's machine is getting pretty long in the tooth now. Joe, are you still using a CRT monitor, or have you got a flatscreen yet? ๐Ÿ˜‰
          I'm very sceptical (British spelling) that it would take to kindly to being asked to handle 10 pics in a lossless format that were each over 6000 pixels wide, which is why I suggested 300 ppi. If it's good enough for book covers and glossy magazines, it's probably ok for CDs.

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          • jeff hammondJ Offline
            jeff hammond
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            @alan fraser said:

            I'm very sceptical (British spelling) .

            well, being the sceptic that i am.. i had to check ๐Ÿ˜†

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            but it almost looks as if it would be pronounced 'septical' (septic) when written that way.. surely not i hope ๐Ÿ˜‰

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              • pbacotP Offline
                pbacot
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                What a place, huh? Start out with woodwork design, and end up with etymology. All kinds of help.

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                • Joe WoodJ Offline
                  Joe Wood
                  last edited by

                  Darn, so sorry for not replying sooner, really appreciate all the help, I'm just preoccupied with other matters now. I'll be trying this out later and will post back if I run into any problems.

                  thanks Folks!

                  Joe Wood
                  woodsshop.com/

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                  • Joe WoodJ Offline
                    Joe Wood
                    last edited by

                    Boy, forum is very slow again today, this will take awhile.

                    OK, Iโ€™m all ready, got it all figured out about what Iโ€™d like to do ๐Ÿ™‚ now with a little help from my friends I can create a nice set of plans on two sheets of 2โ€™ x 3โ€™ paper.

                    I have 15 Plans Pages, plus a site plan, and the title block, to put on two sheets. Iโ€™ve been experimenting with making these plans using Corel Draw, and Corel Photo Paint. Which one should I use for this?

                    These are the Plans Pages Iโ€™ve been experimenting with, exported as jpg images at 4,000 pix wide, and resized in Picasa to 1,000 pix wide at maximum quality. I know not proper image size or type.

                    PlansPages.jpg

                    In Sup Iโ€™ve arranged my layout on a 2โ€™ x 3โ€™ paper, Iโ€™ve scaled all the images to 10 x 6 ยฝโ€ and fit them on the paper.

                    Layout.jpg

                    Iโ€™ve been messing with Corel Paint. First I created a 2โ€™ x 3โ€™ paper size (I choose RGB), but which should I choose? B& White, Greyscale?

                    PaperSetup.jpg

                    Then I used the Ruler tool to make 1โ€ borders around the edges. I brought in a few of the resized images. I can position them fairly well, and have been grabbing corners to resize them, not quite sure what Iโ€™m doing, it would be nice to bring them in at correct size?

                    CorPaint.jpg

                    So to do this properly, from SUp how do I export and create an image at correct resolution and DPI to end up with a 10โ€ wide image I can bring in to Corel without having to resize it in Corel?

                    How do I put a border around each image?

                    After Iโ€™ve arranged them, do I do, Object > Combine > All objects with background? What settings do I use when exporting the 2โ€™ x 3โ€™ image? What type image should I export to send to the local print shop?

                    This is for a local solar patio cover design, hopefully Iโ€™ll get to build it too!

                    1Perspective.jpg

                    Joe Wood
                    woodsshop.com/

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                    • J Offline
                      jpalm32
                      last edited by

                      Been to your site Joe. Found it in a search for patio roofs awhile back.
                      Real nice stuff. Clean drawings & nice layout.
                      Someone of your talent needs a proper machine.

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                      • Joe WoodJ Offline
                        Joe Wood
                        last edited by

                        Well JP it does what I ask it to, just like trusty 'ol @Last SUp Ver 5, it does what I need it to do ๐Ÿ™‚

                        sorry bout my last post, I came back here after a month and a half and didn't read what had been posted, sorry about that. All the image size Info I need!

                        so I'm experimenting with tifs, exported some at 975 x 1500 for a 6.5 x 10" , made a greyscale 2' x 3' paper size in Corel PPaint, brought in those tifs and we'll see how far I get with this!

                        Joe Wood
                        woodsshop.com/

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                        • Joe WoodJ Offline
                          Joe Wood
                          last edited by

                          allright, I do think I almost have it!

                          resized those tifs at 150 dpi, brought them into a greyscale 2x3'at 150 dpi paper,

                          and I've got them all arranged it looks like. I can't figure out how to make the image borders, then I'll Combine all objects with background,

                          then Publish > PDF ?

                          Corel.jpg

                          Joe Wood
                          woodsshop.com/

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                          • Joe WoodJ Offline
                            Joe Wood
                            last edited by

                            Should I be using Corel Draw or Photo Paint for something like this?

                            I have it all set up in P Paint but have a nagging thought that I should be using Draw ..

                            Joe Wood
                            woodsshop.com/

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                            • Joe WoodJ Offline
                              Joe Wood
                              last edited by

                              Well I used Corel Draw X3, and figured out how to do borders, Effects > Create Boundary.

                              then I did > Publish To PDF.

                              Looked at the pdf full size and it looks pretty good.

                              before I Published it, should I have done anything to the file, like Combine with Background, or Flatten?

                              looking back at what I did, should I have done anything differently?

                              PDF.jpg

                              Joe Wood
                              woodsshop.com/

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