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    thomthom
    last edited by 9 Oct 2012, 19:24

    Can you type this into the console:

    require File.join(::TT_Vertex::CEXT_PATH, 'VT_CEXT') TT_Vertex.debug_info

    ?

    After you typed load 'TT_Vertex/loader.rb' then the Vertex Tools menus and toolbars should be available, right?

    Can you try with an empty Plugins folder? Temporarily rename your Plugins folder and create a fresh one. Then install Vertex Tools. (Use the RBZ package and install with SketchUp's native installer utility. http://www.thomthom.net/software/vertex_tools/manual/getting_started#installing_rbz )

    Sorry that there's nothing much of a result so far - but I've never had this error reported in the 2+ years of Vertex Tools. 😕

    Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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      hygicell
      last edited by 9 Oct 2012, 20:16

      thanks for your patience too ❗
      we are slowly getting somewhere:

      Can you type this into the console:

      require File.join(::TT_Vertex::CEXT_PATH, 'VT_CEXT')
      TT_Vertex.debug_info

      ?

      ScreenHunter_23 Oct. 09 21.47.jpg
      ScreenHunter_25 Oct. 09 21.53.jpg

      After you typed load 'TT_Vertex/loader.rb' then the Vertex Tools menus and toolbars should be available, right?

      not anywhere to be found
      the box is checked in the preferences/extensions window

      Can you try with an empty Plugins folder? Temporarily rename your Plugins folder and create a fresh one. Then install Vertex Tools. (Use the RBZ package and install with SketchUp's native installer utility.

      emptied plugins folder as suggested
      new errors:
      ScreenHunter_26 Oct. 09 22.01.jpg

      but now the menus and toolbars are available
      ScreenHunter_27 Oct. 09 22.06.jpg

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        thomthom
        last edited by 9 Oct 2012, 20:32

        Say what? With a completely empty Plugins folder you're getting errors??

        I'm thinking this is a VirtualStore issue. Though I couldn't immediately see a "Compatibility Files" button in your screenshots. But it could be because my German isn't that strong.

        Can you enter this path into Explorer:
        C:\Users\%USERNAME%\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files (x86)\Google\Google SketchUp 8
        ?

        If there's anything there, then they should be moved to the real Plugin folder.
        (But since we're debugging here - move any files out of the way. Just so we can ensure the basic is working.)

        Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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          hygicell
          last edited by 9 Oct 2012, 21:24

          closer and closer, I believe:
          there was a file in there:
          plugins, with a subfile 1001bitpro
          ScreenHunter_28 Oct. 09 22.57.jpg
          deleted those
          then completely deleted 1001bitpro and reinstalled it
          tried again, same errors
          again deleted 1001bitpro completely
          new situation:
          ScreenHunter_29 Oct. 09 23.18.jpg

          alas, still:
          ScreenHunter_30 Oct. 09 23.20.jpg

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            Dave R
            last edited by 9 Oct 2012, 21:47

            I don't know if this has anything to do with it but what is in the Google folder under Adobe?

            Etaoin Shrdlu

            %

            (THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE)

            G28 X0.0 Y0.0 Z0.0

            M30

            %

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              hygicell
              last edited by 10 Oct 2012, 05:23

              @dave r said:

              I don't know if this has anything to do with it but what is in the Google folder under Adobe?

              ScreenHunter_30 Oct. 10 07.21.jpg

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                thomthom
                last edited by 10 Oct 2012, 07:41

                Hang on - previously you got an error where 'tt_solid_inspector.rb' would not load. Now that error is gone and the 'loader.rb' error is back??

                And how the VirtualStore Plugins folder is empty?

                Even when you turn on Hidden Files?

                Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                  hygicell
                  last edited by 10 Oct 2012, 08:48

                  I have tried so many things, and I don't remember the sequence

                  I am learning to master solids, which is why I installed solid inspector
                  at a certain moment it did work
                  later I installed fixSolid, which does a nice job
                  too bad it doesn't work on components yet

                  since I am working on an important drawing for which I need my plugins I have reinstated the original plugins folder, but with 1001bit removed
                  that didn't seem to help

                  the virtualstore plugins folder is now deleted, but I guess reinstalling 1001bit will recreate it
                  ScreenHunter_32 Oct. 10 10.35.jpg

                  for the moment I don't need 1001bit
                  I can easily again rename both plugins folders (mine and the empty one)
                  just tell me what to do
                  thanks for your efforts and fast replies
                  Frank

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                    thomthom
                    last edited by 10 Oct 2012, 09:17

                    I'd like to test the following:

                    1:

                    • Empty VirtualStore
                    • Empty Plugins Folder
                      Does any error appear then?

                    2: (If #1 doesn't produce any error)

                    • Empty VirtualStore
                    • Empty Plugins folder
                    • Install Vertex Tools - using the Install Extension feature in SketchUp
                      Any errors then?

                    Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                      hygicell
                      last edited by 10 Oct 2012, 10:51

                      1.a do you mean completely empty visualstore (or rename it and create an empty one)?
                      1.b I think you mean: rename plugins folders, so that plugins is empty?

                      2.a do you mean completely empty visualstore (or rename it and create an empty one)?
                      2.b I think I tried that (without 2.a) with good results (see page 7, 2/3 down) except for the solid inspector error
                      and, as said, I don't need solid inspector for the moment

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                        thomthom
                        last edited by 10 Oct 2012, 10:58

                        I want to see what happens when you have nothing in the VirtualStore folder and the Plugins folder. Because it's was very odd how it previously seemed to indicate something was still loading. (the solid inspector)

                        Re: 2.b Yes, we tried that, but before checking the VirtualStore.

                        Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                          hygicell
                          last edited by 10 Oct 2012, 11:14

                          ... and it might be that I had installed solid inspector in between tests, as I was in the learning curve for solids
                          which would probably explain the error

                          please be more specific for both folders: empty completely or temporarily rename and create an emty one

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                            thomthom
                            last edited by 10 Oct 2012, 11:26

                            @hygicell said:

                            ... and it might be that I had installed solid inspector in between tests, as I was in the learning curve for solids
                            which would probably explain the error

                            That would make more sense.

                            @hygicell said:

                            please be more specific for both folders: empty completely or temporarily rename and create an emty one

                            Doesn't matter how you empty them. Rename, move or whatever.

                            Just try to start SketchUp with empty Plugins folder and empty VirtualStore folder.

                            If it starts without errors with empty Plugins folder, install Vertex Tools.

                            If Vertex Tools then works it would indicate some issue with your existing plugins folder and you'd have to incrementally start to reinstall your other plugins and see when any error appearing.

                            We would then be able to identify when the problem occurs and determine if we're looking at a plugin conflict.

                            Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                              hygicell
                              last edited by 10 Oct 2012, 11:54

                              I think we have established that ttVertex works, apart for the solids inspector error
                              I am ready to do as you recommend

                              thought it would maybe spare us some time if first I test with all extensions except ttVertex disabled in the preferences window:
                              ScreenHunter_33 Oct. 10 13.45.jpg
                              ScreenHunter_34 Oct. 10 13.46.jpg
                              ScreenHunter_35 Oct. 10 13.46.jpg

                              didn't do much good, quite the contrary 😠
                              so I will proceed
                              but while I start doing what you ask, maybe you can inspect if at first sight there might be a conflict that has been exposed:

                              Error Loading File C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/TT_Vertex/loader.rb
                              uninitialized constant TT_VertexError Loading File C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/lss_toolbar/lss_blend.rb
                              undefined method add_item' for nil:NilClassError Loading File C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/lss_toolbar/lss_crvsmth.rb undefined method add_item' for nil:NilClassError Loading File C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/lss_toolbar/lss_ctrlpnts.rb
                              undefined method add_item' for nil:NilClassError Loading File C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/lss_toolbar/lss_fllwedgs.rb undefined method add_item' for nil:NilClassError Loading File C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/lss_toolbar/lss_mshstick.rb
                              undefined method add_item' for nil:NilClassError Loading File C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/lss_toolbar/lss_pathface.rb undefined method add_item' for nil:NilClassError Loading File C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/lss_toolbar/lss_pnts2mesh.rb
                              undefined method add_item' for nil:NilClassError Loading File C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/lss_toolbar/lss_recursive.rb undefined method add_item' for nil:NilClassError Loading File C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/lss_toolbar/lss_tlbr_common.rb
                              undefined method `add_separator' for nil:NilClass

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                                thomthom
                                last edited by 10 Oct 2012, 12:02

                                Not all plugins can be enabled/disabled via the Extension list.

                                Not sure about that error. I'm unfamiliar with that is prefixed with "lss"... But this doesn't mean immediately there's a conflict with that. Maybe something it required was deactivated. This is why to be sure one need to do one by one - I'm afraid.

                                Just to be 100% sure I've understood correctly: Vertex Tools loads with no issues when it's installed by itself?

                                Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                  hygicell
                                  last edited by 10 Oct 2012, 12:03

                                  you must be hungry by now,
                                  so I have sent you a box of cookies (Belgian First Quality Pralines)
                                  Frank
                                  😍

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                                    thomthom
                                    last edited by 10 Oct 2012, 12:04

                                    @hygicell said:

                                    you must be hungry by now,
                                    so I have sent you a box of cookies
                                    Frank

                                    😲

                                    That was mighty kind of you! Now let us hope we can pin down the source of your issue. I'll feel really bad if I cannot help. 😕

                                    Btw, are you going to Basecamp?

                                    Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                      hygicell
                                      last edited by 10 Oct 2012, 12:05

                                      I will proceed along your instructions

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                                        hygicell
                                        last edited by 10 Oct 2012, 12:07

                                        @thomthom said:

                                        Not all plugins can be enabled/disabled via the Extension list.

                                        a suggestion for a plugin or for sketchup?
                                        would make debugging fast and easy

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                                          thomthom
                                          last edited by 10 Oct 2012, 12:09

                                          @hygicell said:

                                          @thomthom said:

                                          Not all plugins can be enabled/disabled via the Extension list.

                                          a suggestion for a plugin or for sketchup?
                                          would make debugging fast and easy

                                          I think Dana was working on a Plugin Manager... ...I'll poke him and query the status.

                                          Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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