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    • jgbJ Offline
      jgb
      last edited by

      I have a comp that is Bug-Splatting every time I do an offset. As part of a larger model, I did a 1/4 in offset on a face, which worked as expected, but as soon as I move the cursor; Splat.

      I did the very same offset on the opposite face successfully yesterday. It needed a bit of cleaning up (expected) in preparation for a push.

      Now when I do the same face on the opposite part, it splats, whether in the model, as a separate copy in the model, or as an isolated comp in its own SU file (attached).

      I'm posting a few annotated JPGs and the isolated problem SKP.

      The Splatting face

      It worked OK on this face yesterday

      The part in a stand-alone SKP.


      jgb

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      • A Offline
        ArCAD-UK
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        Hi Joel, I got it to work first time on the pro version by only selecting the lines to offset, then cleaning up. As the required offset is equal to the "clamp" thickness I thought it may be testing SU's logic to do a straight face offset.

        Just a couple of general observations on your model:

        1. Your back and front face colour is white. Change the back colour and you will notice some faces that shouldn't be showing for a solid object.
        2. You have some hidden lines which should have been coplanar and deletable if you had modeled accurately.

        Hope that helps.

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        • jgbJ Offline
          jgb
          last edited by

          Thanks ArCAD.

          I've been having crashing problems in SU today in other areas as well. I haven't rebooted the PC to test, as I had some stuff to do and a reboot takes too long.

          As for the white both sides, I have set it that way. A long time ago I just got PO'ed with SU arbitrarily setting face front/back. Anyway, I always set back and front the same texture, when the part is done. If I remember, I also orient faces as well. This part (when it is a solid) will have an aluminum texture.

          As for hidden lines, SU seems to generate these in spades during an intersect operation. Sometimes, when I push a face out, then draw a circle on one, then push it to make a hole, the back side does not intersect properly. The circle shows, but the face has not been intersected. If I do an intersect with the face and the pushed circle, I get hidden lines all over the part, even unselected, un-intersected faces. Drives me nuts, as either I have to undo, then redo the circle push right through the face, or select all hidden lines and delete them.

          If I push through, I then have to intersect again and that often generates the hidden lines again.
          When I delete the hidden lines, often full faces that were OK before just vanish. It's as if the intersect operation literally moves lines around by a smidge, enough to throw out existing faces.

          When the part is finished I do a hidden line removal, so a few may be present during construction.

          Anyway, as for this posted problem, I did the inside perimeter by hand and it worked ok.
          I tried offset on some other face in the same part and no problem.


          jgb

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          • thomthomT Offline
            thomthom
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            @jgb said:

            I've been having crashing problems in SU today in other areas as well. I haven't rebooted the PC to test, as I had some stuff to do and a reboot takes too long.

            Make sure you submit them BugSplats so they are reported to the SketchUp team.

            Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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            • jgbJ Offline
              jgb
              last edited by

              @thomthom said:

              @jgb said:

              I've been having crashing problems in SU today in other areas as well. I haven't rebooted the PC to test, as I had some stuff to do and a reboot takes too long.

              Make sure you submit them BugSplats so they are reported to the SketchUp team.

              Yup! 5 times with descriptions of what I was doing each time. No matches with the Bug database though.


              jgb

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              • thomthomT Offline
                thomthom
                last edited by

                Good. Just make sure to submit every one. The issue will peak up on their stats.

                Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                • jgbJ Offline
                  jgb
                  last edited by

                  Tried to do an offset on a completely different part, same model, and SU just vanished, no BugSplat came up. 😲

                  This has happened several times sometime before, but I just restarted SU and it sailed on with no problems.

                  I can't prove this yet, but SU seems a bit unstable since I loaded Simfonia. I'm not using SAT in that model, but it loads as a plugin in all sessions. I may "unload" SAT to see, if this crashing continues.


                  jgb

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                  • snicoloS Offline
                    snicolo
                    last edited by

                    Workaround:
                    If you do not pre-select the face when doing the offset the crash does not happens.

                    It is a known crash and hopefully we will address it soon.

                    Simone Nicolo
                    QA Manager
                    http://www.sketchup.com

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                    • jgbJ Offline
                      jgb
                      last edited by

                      @snicolo said:

                      Workaround:
                      If you do not pre-select the face when doing the offset the crash does not happens.

                      It is a known crash and hopefully we will address it soon.

                      Good advice, however I have always preselected the face (habit) and as far as I can recall, SU never crashed before like this, until recently.

                      Also, lately, I've had 3+ "Splat-less" crashes just selecting other tools, last 2 were "Joint-push-pull".
                      In that case, I opened 2 SU sessions, copied the "problem" comp over, and it worked OK in session 2.
                      Copied back the edited comp and session 1 was normal since, even with JPP.

                      Again, this crashing seems more prevalent when my models get well over 200,000 lines, but I also have a few very stable 500K+ models. And as I said before, it seems more prevalent since I installed Simfonia, but I haven't used SAT for several weeks, and never in those "splat-less" models.


                      jgb

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