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    Rose123
    last edited by 3 Sept 2012, 17:09

    At 2.36, this guy makes an upright rectangle for a cabinet door, turns it into a component, adds thickness with push/pull, decorates the front, and then rotates both doors open.

    When I try to replicate this,the doors warp when I rotate them. That is, the front warps away from the thickness even though I, too, made the rectangle a component and edited the thickness to it. To get the thickened doors to rotate properly, I have to enclose this component within a SECOND component that combines the rectangle door and its thickness. Which I don't see this guy doing. What am I doing wrong, or what step did he leave out? Thanks.

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      Rose123
      last edited by 3 Sept 2012, 17:22

      Adding to my post -I suppose I could just build one door, make it a component when completed, copy and flip. But I'm wondering why my door warps away from its thickness when I edit the thickness to it.

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        Dave R
        last edited by 3 Sept 2012, 17:25

        It sounds to me as if you're not selecting the entire door before rotating it. I would make the door a component as soon as I've finished drawing it. Then you can select it in one click and rotate it open.

        Edit to add: Absolutely! You should make the door a component, copy and flip it. Although I would wait until later in the process of drawing the door to make it a component, the guy in your video did it after he drew the starting rectangle.

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          Rose123
          last edited by 3 Sept 2012, 17:34

          Dave, thanks. However, about this:

          "It sounds to me as if you're not selecting the entire door before rotating it."

          Isn't a component automatically selected in its entirety when I click on it?

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            Dave R
            last edited by 3 Sept 2012, 17:36

            It is but if you didn't make it a component or you open the component for editing (by double clicking on it, perhaps) you could easily not select the entire door. Why don't you share your model with the warped door?

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              Rose123
              last edited by 3 Sept 2012, 17:46

              I did make the rectangle a component, I did it immediately, as in the video. Are you saying that when I double-click on a component to edit it, the whole component may not get necessarily get selected for editing? I assumed that the whole component would automatically be selected when I double-clicked to edit it.

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                Box
                last edited by 3 Sept 2012, 17:51

                You need a triple click, double opens it and the third selects it.
                But a double then a single will only select that part you click on.
                If the whole component turns blue it is selected, if only parts of it turn blue they are the bits that will move.

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                  Rose123
                  last edited by 3 Sept 2012, 17:53

                  Well, you guys are right (as if that were ever in doubt, lol). I double-clicked on a door, then held the Shift key down and selected all three of its surfaces (front, top and side). Then I rotated one, and the whole door rotated together. I had assumed that when I double-clicked on a component, all of its surfaces would be automatically selected. Thanks!

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                    Box
                    last edited by 3 Sept 2012, 17:56

                    You don't need shift if you want the whole thing. As I said, a triple click will open and select all, or if already open for editing a triple will again select all.

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                      Dave R
                      last edited by 3 Sept 2012, 18:01

                      @rose123 said:

                      then held the Shift key down and selected all three of its surfaces (front, top and side).

                      Your door should have a front, top, two sides, a bottom and a back. If you only selected three surfaces, you wouldn't have selected everything and you'd have gotten the warp or deformation of the door.

                      If all you want to do is open the door, don't open the component for editing. Simple rotate the component.

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                        Rose123
                        last edited by 3 Sept 2012, 18:19

                        Well, I want to rotate both together, opposite each other, like in the video. It appears I can only do that when one component is open for editing, correct?

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                          Dave R
                          last edited by 3 Sept 2012, 18:22

                          Well, you could do it that way. I would just rotate them individually so as not to change the geometry inside the component.

                          Besides, maybe you want to rotate them different angles.


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                            mwm5053
                            last edited by 3 Sept 2012, 19:03

                            @rose123 said:

                            Well, I want to rotate both together, opposite each other, like in the video. It appears I can only do that when one component is open for editing, correct?

                            Yes that's a nifty trick I just learned but you need to click once to select component and then double click to select all faces and edges in that component or just as has been said a triple click either way.

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                              Dave R
                              last edited by 3 Sept 2012, 20:03

                              It is alright if your door is made of one component and you want all the instances in your model to be modified.. Of course it's a lot of work to open every component when your door consists of five or more of them. It's much easier to just rotate the door without editing.


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                                Rose123
                                last edited by 3 Sept 2012, 20:23

                                Great bookcases! Those will be my next project. 😄

                                About this:

                                "Of course it's a lot of work to open every component when your door consists of five or more of them."

                                Do you mean that if I wanted to edit such a door I'd have to open every component on it? Wouldn't I just have to open the component I want to alter?

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                                  Dave R
                                  last edited by 3 Sept 2012, 20:34

                                  It's a tool cabinet but thanks.

                                  If you want to move the geometry inside every component that makes up the door, you'd have to open each one for editing. It's just plain old easier to select the component (blue bounding box) with a single click and rotate the component no matter how the door is constructed. And it isn't that hard to rotate each door individually.

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