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    • daleD Offline
      dale
      last edited by

      I have just moved to a new MacBook Pro Retina, and the difference in how Sketchup looks and performs compared to my old MacBook Pro ( mid 2010 model) is staggering.
      The mid 2010 MacBook has known issues, which is why I on a new computer only 2 years after purchasing.
      SketchUp on the old MacBook was very, very quirky. But because I have project deadlines, I just found workarounds, and in the end was able to make things happen.
      Cutting to the questions though:
      I use tape measure guidelines a lot, not really suspect considering I am a Cabinetmaker/Joiner/Carpenter by trade, so it fits my workflow.
      On the Retina, the guidelines appear as very thin line weights, and although elegant, I would love them just a little thicker. Is there any way of doing this?

      Using the tape measure tool, there are times when it will not create a guide line. This seems to take place after one guide line is already created, and you want to create another guide from the first one.
      For instance: If I create a rectangle, then from the centre point on one of the edges, I create a guide line on the face of the rectangle, If I go to the centre point of the newly created guideline and try to create a new guide, it won't do it.
      Can anyone explain under what parameters this occurs?
      I may add more to this thread as I notice the differences between my old system, and the new one, so thanks for the help.

      Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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      • D Offline
        daarboven
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        I made the experience that guidelines are best pulled out from a line away from any endpoints or centerpoints. Otherwise you often end up with construction points or the like. If the tape measure is completely reluctant to obey, i use to hit STRG/CTRL on my Windows PC once or twice. Might work on a Mac with the Apple key?

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        • daleD Offline
          dale
          last edited by

          Thanks daarboven I appreciate your answer
          I don't really have a problem, as I know the work around, I am really wondering why Sketchup has this particular function, and what its usefulness is. (Or is it a bug in my system)
          Actually I was helping a friend learn SketchUp and it happened, and I just couldn't give him the answer why.

          Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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          • TIGT Offline
            TIG Moderator
            last edited by

            Your Style sets the color of your guides.
            If for example it's a 'gray' they might look more feint than necessary - especially when used with some Style background/sky/ground combos...
            Try adjusting the guides' color etc and see if that helps.
            I use a 'dark purple', which seems to stand out best for me.
            Remember to change your default Template to use that adjusted Style as desired, so that you don't need to repeat the fix... πŸ˜•

            Guidelines are made parallel to lines that you drag off from.
            However Guide-points are taken from point to point, Sketchup takes points like vertices, line-ends AND line-midpoints etc as points that you want to use with Guide-points/Measuring rather than making Guidelines ! So if you see a pale-blue midpoint inference dot as you hover over and edge, then move you cursor slightly to one side and then press/drag - the Guideline will form as expected...

            TIG

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            • A Offline
              ArCAD-UK
              last edited by

              The other variant to TIG's observation is if you draw a guide between two existing points e.g. the corners of a rectangle you will then get an infinite guide rather than a length limited one.

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              • daleD Offline
                dale
                last edited by

                Thanks Tig and ArCAD-UK
                I now know it must be the Retina display as I took a screenshot on the old MacBook to post along with a screenshot on the new MacBook to post and show the difference, but when I opened the old Macbook screenshot on the Retina, although it looked substantially different on the old MacBook, it was exactly the same on the new machine.
                I also tried cycling through styles as you suggested Tig, but there was no discernible change in guide size.
                The Retina has only 2 available screen resolution sizes: Best for Retina , and scaled.(What goes on in their little minds πŸ˜’)
                Scaled seems to be designed to enhance text.
                There is a program available called SwitchResX, https://store.kagi.com/cgi-bin/store.cgi?storeID=3XH_LIVE that allows for any screen resolution to be used. There is a fair amount of complaining (OK whining) going on about this in the Macbuzz universe.
                As for the other, No guidelines appearing.
                I just want to clarify. I have no problem making guidelines do what I want, it was just under this one circumstance, where nothing happens, I was trying to understand.
                If you could indulge me:

                Create a 10' x 10' (3.048 m x 3.048 m) vertical square along the Red axis.
                With the tape measure tool, Inference to the centre of the top of the square, and pull a guideline down on the face of the square, lets say 3' (0.914m)
                with the tape measure tool inferenced to the centre of that guideline, pull out along the green axis, again let's say 3' (0.914m).
                Right Click.

                I'm interested in what happens for you, as nothing happens for me, the green arrow indicating I am on the green axis appears as I pull out, but when I click, there is no guide point, or guideline.
                I was wondering if this was a bug, or if there was some (Duh) reason (that was being secretly kept from me), that made this action useful.

                Thanks

                Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                • A Offline
                  ArCAD-UK
                  last edited by

                  I get the same thing. It can possibly be summarised as: If the tape measure picks up an inference point first then it won't generate a new guideline. I've tried it with other inference points and the result is the same. Not a disaster but maybe a minor bug that could do with tidying up. I know there are worse things for SU to worry about.

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                  • daleD Offline
                    dale
                    last edited by

                    Thanks ArCAD-UK .
                    So it's not just me.
                    I will post this in bugs, although as you say, if this is the worst that can happen, πŸ˜„

                    Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                    • Rich O BrienR Offline
                      Rich O Brien Moderator
                      last edited by

                      @unknownuser said:

                      Create a 10' x 10' (3.048 m x 3.048 m) vertical square along the Red axis.
                      With the tape measure tool, Inference to the centre of the top of the square, and pull a guideline down on the face of the square, lets say 3' (0.914m)
                      with the tape measure tool inferenced to the centre of that guideline, pull out along the green axis, again let's say 3' (0.914m).
                      Right Click.

                      It is acting weird here too.

                      Sometimes I can create cpoints/guides other times not. If I don't use the inferenced midpoint I can add guides.

                      Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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                      • daleD Offline
                        dale
                        last edited by

                        Thanks Rich
                        I was hoping someone would say, "No this inferences your model in Layout and makes perfect, elegant dimensions" 😲

                        Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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