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    • R Offline
      rv1974
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      There must be ability to set up the net gap between railing posts .

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      • TIGT Offline
        TIG Moderator
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        @rv1974 said:

        There must be ability to set up the net gap between railing posts .
        But that's a 'balustrade' tool not a stair tool ?
        The 4"/100mm sphere gap rule will then apply too...

        TIG

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        • utilerU Offline
          utiler
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          Trust you to try and scare him off the forum all together, TIG!!! ๐Ÿ˜‰

          Yes, there are specific max / mins of riser / goings and a 2R+G is the range here in OZ also but for getting a stair modelled effectively and quickly I would have gone down the 'keep it simple' road.... ๐Ÿ˜•

          purpose/expression/purpose/....

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          • TIGT Offline
            TIG Moderator
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            @utiler said:

            Trust you to try and scare him off the forum all together, TIG!!! ๐Ÿ˜‰
            Yes, there are specific max / mins of riser / goings and a 2R+G is the range here in OZ also but for getting a stair modelled effectively and quickly I would have gone down the 'keep it simple' road.... ๐Ÿ˜•
            That's what I ended up saying 'KISS'... ๐Ÿ˜’
            An all bells and whistles stair tool could get very complicated...
            The single most important thing currently missing is I think the 'nosing' - tread 'overlaps', required in all stairs... ๐Ÿ˜•

            TIG

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            • pbacotP Offline
              pbacot
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              @unknownuser said:

              The single most important thing currently missing is I think the 'nosing' - tread 'overlaps', required in all stairs... ๐Ÿ˜•

              for straight runs, or any stairs with identical treads, this could be handled by components. So then the designer can edit the simple tread component and add a profile. This could be a subroutine or the user just designs and draws their own.

              What I find about stairs, is I can design the basics fine, and drawing a blocky staircase is not the issue as it's pretty easy SU drawing, it's adding the nosing etc., having a top nosing, and a finished (open) side. So stair routines end up somewhere in the middle, possibly making the process more complicated.

              Balustrades have always been very time consuming for me--in 2d CAD too. I know how to design them but drawing takes a lot of variables. Problem is every staircase I do is different. How a plugin fits into the process is problematic.

              But there is a definite place for being able to quickly insert a usable "representation" of a staircase in a building model. Also as a quick proof of design tool. Perhaps it is not of the detail for, code, closeups, or construction, but gets you somewhere along, like the generic door and window tools.

              I recently DL'd a spiral staircase from the 3D warehouse. It fit the bill for a long shot, which is all I ever needed it for. NG for anything else of course.

              MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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              • utilerU Offline
                utiler
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                @tig said:

                @utiler said:

                The single most important thing currently missing is I think the 'nosing' - tread 'overlaps', required in all stairs... ๐Ÿ˜•

                True... ๐Ÿ‘ Although for quick modelling purposes a basic stair would suffice unless of course you are doing Construction Docs.

                purpose/expression/purpose/....

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                  rv1974
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                  @tig said:

                  @rv1974 said:

                  There must be ability to set up the net gap between railing posts .
                  But that's a 'balustrade' tool not a stair tool ?
                  The 4"/100mm sphere gap rule will then apply too...

                  This plug-in generates some kind of primitive railing&posts system doesn't it?
                  My local safety regulations demand <= 10cm net gap between posts so getting it automatically (not through additional plugins) would be really great.

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                  • sdmitchS Offline
                    sdmitch
                    last edited by

                    Yes, the railing and post system is premitive but I never intended it to be more and my intentions have not changed.

                    Nothing is worthless, it can always be used as a bad example.

                    http://sdmitch.blogspot.com/

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                    • utilerU Offline
                      utiler
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                      @utiler said:

                      Ok, the last post was sent at 2am this morning on my iPad so I didn't have the option to run the plugin....

                      Sam, I wasn't aware you weren't in the industry so here's a quick glossary of terms which I expect is pretty universal.

                      I've chosen to make an example of the U-shape in-situ stair as it covers most terms.
                      [attachment=0:263t8gtv]<!-- ia0 -->Stairmaker.png<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:263t8gtv]

                      My crude attempt at a Dialogue Box

                      Stair Width: 2600
                      Stair Height: 3900
                      Flight 1 Width: 1200
                      Flight 2 Width: 1200
                      Tread Depth: 275
                      Total No. or Risers: 24
                      Riser Height: 162.5 [I expect this is a system variable that changes as No. of Riser input is changed. This gives the user a visual guide as to their final stair ratio...]
                      No. risers to Landing: 12 [this locates the landing in the overall flight...]
                      Rail Height: 900
                      Rail Offset: 50

                      Sam, Any chance of looking into this I posted a while back...?

                      Many thanks, Andrew
                      ๐Ÿ‘

                      purpose/expression/purpose/....

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                      • dereiD Offline
                        derei
                        last edited by

                        Please explain each input element, for who has no specialized terms knowledge
                        For example, what is Risers2Landing? or Gap Run2Run, Step Depth, Riser Height,Tread Depth and so on...
                        Thank you very much.

                        DESIGNER AND ARTIST [DEREI.UK](http://derei.uk/l)

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                        • sdmitchS Offline
                          sdmitch
                          last edited by

                          @unknownuser said:

                          Please explain each input element, for who has no specialized terms knowledge
                          For example, what is Risers2Landing? or Gap Run2Run, Step Depth, Riser Height,Tread Depth and so on...
                          Thank you very much.

                          Risers2Landing is the number of steps or risers going up to the landing of a U-shape stair.
                          Gap Run2Run is the space between the sets of stairs in a U-shape stair.
                          Step Depth is the front to back dimension of each step.
                          Riser Height is the vertical distance between each step.
                          Tread Depth is the thickness of the individual steps.

                          Nothing is worthless, it can always be used as a bad example.

                          http://sdmitch.blogspot.com/

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                          • utilerU Offline
                            utiler
                            last edited by

                            @utiler said:

                            @utiler said:

                            Ok, the last post was sent at 2am this morning on my iPad so I didn't have the option to run the plugin....

                            Sam, I wasn't aware you weren't in the industry so here's a quick glossary of terms which I expect is pretty universal.

                            I've chosen to make an example of the U-shape in-situ stair as it covers most terms.
                            [attachment=0:2etuiebv]<!-- ia0 -->Stairmaker.png<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:2etuiebv]

                            My crude attempt at a Dialogue Box

                            Stair Width: 2600
                            Stair Height: 3900
                            Flight 1 Width: 1200
                            Flight 2 Width: 1200
                            Tread Depth: 275
                            Total No. or Risers: 24
                            Riser Height: 162.5 [I expect this is a system variable that changes as No. of Riser input is changed. This gives the user a visual guide as to their final stair ratio...]
                            No. risers to Landing: 12 [this locates the landing in the overall flight...]
                            Rail Height: 900
                            Rail Offset: 50

                            Sam, Any chance of looking into this I posted a while back...?

                            Many thanks, Andrew
                            ๐Ÿ‘

                            Sam?

                            purpose/expression/purpose/....

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                            • sdmitchS Offline
                              sdmitch
                              last edited by

                              U, it is a little more than just changing the labels in the inputbox. Allowing a variable number of steps to/from the landing of U-shape stairs would require extensive re-write.

                              Nothing is worthless, it can always be used as a bad example.

                              http://sdmitch.blogspot.com/

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                              • utilerU Offline
                                utiler
                                last edited by

                                Thanks Sam, thought it was worth asking anyway....

                                ๐Ÿ‘

                                purpose/expression/purpose/....

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                                • A Offline
                                  AlainBo
                                  last edited by

                                  Hello,
                                  It could be interesting to be able to create L shape also.

                                  Regards,
                                  Alain

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                                  • sdmitchS Offline
                                    sdmitch
                                    last edited by

                                    @unknownuser said:

                                    Hello,
                                    It could be interesting to be able to create L shape also.

                                    Regards,
                                    Alain

                                    That might be a simple add. I'll give it some thought.

                                    Nothing is worthless, it can always be used as a bad example.

                                    http://sdmitch.blogspot.com/

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                                    • sdmitchS Offline
                                      sdmitch
                                      last edited by

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      Hello,
                                      It could be interesting to be able to create L shape also.

                                      Regards,
                                      Alain

                                      Alain, The L shape option has been added.

                                      Nothing is worthless, it can always be used as a bad example.

                                      http://sdmitch.blogspot.com/

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                                      • guanjinG Offline
                                        guanjin
                                        last edited by

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                                        sdmitch๏ผšHello
                                        What is the above parameters, why no changeใ€‚
                                        L-shaped and U-shaped running very slowใ€‚
                                        The previous version๏ผŒNormalใ€‚
                                        The ladder can not be changed to a pipe or a rectangle, the only line.

                                        I come from China, is to learn

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                                        • A Offline
                                          AlainBo
                                          last edited by

                                          Cool,
                                          thanks sdmitch

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                                          • charly2008C Offline
                                            charly2008
                                            last edited by

                                            Hi sdmitch,

                                            thanks for the extension.

                                            Charly

                                            He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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