We need another World War!

[Mike Lucey]

Hi Guys,

While talking to my brother-in-law the other day about the current state of World economies he said that we need a World War to sort things out!

I was a little shocked that he would say such a thing as he is an intelligent and thoughtful guy. I was against his solution and we argued back and forth on the subject.

We finally agreed that, in a weird way, there could well be a World War ongoing at present but instead of bullets and bombs its money that is being used as the weapon of destruction.

As to who is at war against who, that argument is still ongoing. Have you guys any opinions on this?

Mike

[TIG]

The powers that be have tried it most recently with 'the war on climate change'.
There's also 'war on poverty', 'war on terrorism', 'war on greed' etc... BUT none of them seem to affect enough of us with sufficient immediacy.
They'll have a new one soon enough... but what might that be ?

[michaliszissiou]

Against who?
A world war then.
I can't talk about it without violating the rules of this forum. Neither anyone can, I'm afraid so.

[solo]

Here in the States we have a 'war on women' but that's mostly the church and right wing fundamentals that are against contraception, equal pay, abortion, family planning and women in general. Not gonna do much for the economy but might make this election year a little uglier (if that's even possible)

[dale]

I'm not so sure a war would help, as it seems that post war, gradually the same old same old re-establishes itself with a new face.
It has been a real eye opener to see the people of world who live in such wretched conditions willing to sacrifice everything to make change happen for their people.
Perhaps what we need is more in the line of a World Revolution.

[ken]

@solo said:

Here in the States we have a 'war on women' but that's mostly the church and right wing fundamentals that are against contraception, equal pay, abortion, family planning and women in general. Not gonna do much for the economy but might make this election year a little uglier (if that's even possible)

"women in general" Excuse me Solo, but what in the hell color is the sky in your world?

[pilou]

Maybe an atomic one for example ?
Sure all problems will be resolved!

[solo]

@unknownuser said:

"women in general" Excuse me Solo, but what in the hell color is the sky in your world?

The sky is bright and blue here, gloomy overcast in your world?

[pugz1983]

I'm afraid your brother-in-law is right. There are just not enough resources on this planet to cope with the growth in the world. Just imagine what would happen when all chinese earn enough to buy a car or to go on holiday every year. Paris would be flooded with chinese and our ozone layer will be gone in a few years.
It seems the world needs to bring back the balance once in e few hundred years. Look at the history, Tsunami, WO I &II, black plague, holy crusades.
There's just nog enough for all of us I think.

Greetz Twan

[Marian]

Another World War in the classical meaning will be the last for our global civilization. We need to focus on creating solutions for our problems not simply go and bomb the hell out of each other.

War or not, the next 30-40 year will either save us or doom us.

[solo]

I agree, we need a war, a "War on stupidity and ignorance", it's time for 21st century solutions and not mayhem.

We need to address issues like global fresh water resources, diversity farming, global climate change, dependency on fossil fuels, alternative energy sources, etc and not just lip service.

[Marian]

@solo said:

I agree, we need a war, a "War on stupidity and ignorance", it's time for 21st century solutions and not mayhem.

We need to address issues like global fresh water resources, diversity farming, global climate change, dependency on fossil fuels, alternative energy sources, etc and not just lip service.

"Amen!"

[ken]

@solo said:

@unknownuser said:

"women in general" Excuse me Solo, but what in the hell color is the sky in your world?

The sky is bright and blue here, gloomy overcast in your world?

Well I am at a loss on how you can see the sky with the board brush you paint everything you don't like. I have yet to see you mention anything positive, your stick is to always demigrate all other choices. No, the color of my sky is "hike you own hike".

[notareal]

@solo said:

I agree, we need a war, a "War on stupidity and ignorance", it's time for 21st century solutions and not mayhem.

We need to address issues like global fresh water resources, diversity farming, global climate change, dependency on fossil fuels, alternative energy sources, etc and not just lip service.

I could not agree more. Also our generation might be the last that actually still have a little change to do something. Now humanity can be compared as a global force to a major geological processes.

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[Starling75]

@notareal said:

.... Now humanity can be compared as a global force to a major geological processes.

5.1×10^20 J total world annual energy consumption
1.5×10^22 J total energy from the Sun that strikes the face of the Earth each day
4.0×10^22 J estimated total energy released by the magnitude 9.1-9.3 2004 Indian Ocean Earthquake
5.5×10^24 J total energy from the Sun that strikes the face of the Earth each year = 10.000 x total world annual energy consumption

Humanity is really tiny tiny global force ...

[jeff hammond]

another world war like I or II (or the roman empire.. british empire etc) ??

i think that's going on right this minute.. only, none of the other world wars have proven successful (i.e.-no one has yet to conquer the world)..

so they're going about it differently this time (and succeeding if you ask me).. at the base, it's the american empire except by doing this, america itself will lose it's significance/greatness/meaning..

[edit] oh.. and i don't mean to say the american govt. is doing this (though many of their resources are being used to accomplish certain tasks).. but it's not like obama, for instance, has a 'Let's conquer the world / acquire new american lands/ etc' in the same way someone like hitler was trying to do..

[edit] @mike.. upon re-reading the original post, i'm pretty much saying the same thing as your third paragraph implies.

[EarthMover]

There are too many students and not enough teachers, perhaps we need more school shootings. There are too many people on welfare, perhaps we need to encourage more murder among the poor. There are not enough resources, perhaps we need global imperial hegemony to hoard what's left for the elite few and cull the third world herd in the process.

[Krisidious]

don't forget the war on drugs... 20 years, hundreds of billions of dollars and over 1 million prisoners of war.

[Roger]

Here in Arizona we are loosing the war on the environment. Tomorrow the state legislature is about to vote in a law that would make it illegal to follow any of the UN environmental guidelines. Another vote is being taken on exploiting four areas as radioactive waste recycling plants. The patients have taken over the mad house. I hate to cry "the sky is falling but maybe it is."

[EscapeArtist]

I've heard the WWIII argument before. It's usually presented by those that seek to get out from under all the debt incurred by bad government and business practices by simply bombing the heck out if the country that they owe money to. It does nothing to solve the issues that have created the problem in the first place, which can be boiled down to greed.