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    michaliszissiou
    last edited by 3 Apr 2012, 21:15

    No, sapling is the name of the addon.
    Curves have to be converted to real geometry before unwrapping. Watch the tutorial! It's a good one.
    Go to prefs first and enable it.

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      Ecuadorian
      last edited by 8 Apr 2012, 15:50

      Amazing.

      Just wondering... Why do you prefer TIG's obj-out instead of Collada? I see Blender can now import Collada.

      -Miguel Lescano
      Subscribe to my house plans YouTube channel! (30K+ subs)

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        pilou
        last edited by 8 Apr 2012, 19:57

        About import obj
        There is free one here (bottom page) some biggest than the Tig one ; (11 megas against 13 kb πŸ’š
        But very more speedy, useful for the very big files!

        Frenchy Pilou
        Is beautiful that please without concept!
        My Little site :)

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          michaliszissiou
          last edited by 9 Apr 2012, 20:03

          @Pilou
          This is an obj importer, right?
          Tig's exporter is very fast and works beautifully on very dense and complicated models.
          For importing to SU, 3ds format, despite its limitations, works fine.
          (max single mesh 64 K faces, max texture name 8 digits, it is also broken in latest SU build. I use SU 7 for importing)
          Why to import? Using SU just as a modeler and export, is more interesting after all.

          @Ecuadorian
          Have you tried to import collada to latest blender 2.62? You'll get an empty space.

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            sepo
            last edited by 9 Apr 2012, 20:35

            Looks great and the rendering of instances looks amazingly fast.

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              michaliszissiou
              last edited by 9 Apr 2012, 21:17

              Thank you sid.
              3 mins isn't great, it's a CPU render, using NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti, CUDA render, 56 seconds!

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                simon le bon
                last edited by 10 Apr 2012, 10:46

                Dear Michalis, dear all,

                what amazing trees and work πŸ‘ πŸ‘

                As I'm finally learning Blender (!), I'm at the first level interested by this very instructive thread ++

                (!)SU + Blender = war machine)

                Re: The Blender Tree Generator
                http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=179&t=44345#p395545

                @michaliszissiou said:

                Thanks for the kind comments.
                About the skp file:
                It looks heavy ~15Mb for downloading. It's not that huge though, I just don't use components.
                I tested another skp tree, full of components ~400kb downloading. It behaves heavily in SU making rather impossible to load 10-20 such trees. It won't happen with the one a shared.
                @andybot
                http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=323&t=33448&p=372812#p372812
                TIG's obj exporter thread.

                1. SU exports non welded vertices as obj. Import in blender/edit mode, select all, delete double verts (under the [W] menu). This welds all verts.
                2. The ruby addon, remove inner faces. Very useful to kill non manifolds at once.
                3. be aware of the inverted faces in SU (the blue ones), you may fix it in blender but will mess the exported SU UVs.
                4. SU uses ngons internally and exports triangulated meshes. Terrible topology for subdivisions, displacements etc. The funny thing is that new builds of blender 2.62/bmesh implemented these ngons too. You have knifes, push pulls, insets (SU F tool), arcs etc . And some terrible topology in the end. If you're going for displacements, subdivisions, sculpting.
                  So, don't subdivide SU meshes. Just render them, apply better textures, unwrapping, materials for rendering (cycles), bumps. But never subdivide, it's logically impossible. You may retopo all these but not practical for archi vis projects.
                5. Components: Explode them before it's too late πŸ˜†

                I've experienced some difficulty to find the Wikii Inner faces Remover you are talking about.I was remembering this inner faces remover but too vaguely to be able to find it on the forums and have found it into my downloaded plugins repertory. It is not referenced as a normal plugin but it is a reply from Wikii to a Pilou's request.

                So here are the links :

                Pilou _ [Plugin] Internal surfaces
                http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=12668&p=92295#p92295

                Wikii remove_inner_faces.zip
                http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=12668&p=92295#p92295

                Simon

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                  TIG Moderator
                  last edited by 10 Apr 2012, 11:24

                  My SolidSolver tool might also fix your non-manifold 'inner partition faces' issues [and small holes/flaps etc]
                  It only works on groups mind - so if it's a component you need to edit it, select all, and group temporarily... once fixed you can explode the group and the containing component should then be manifold too ?

                  TIG

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                    simon le bon
                    last edited by 10 Apr 2012, 14:14

                    Nice usage of these tools untested until now πŸ˜„

                    tt_solid_inspector.rb

                    http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/tmtm_SolidInspector.jpg

                    http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/tmtm_SolidInspector_menu.jpg

                    TIG-solidsolver.rb

                    @tig said:

                    Parts are based on ThomThom's 'solid_inspector' tool which can also be
                    used prior to this tool, so that you get a better understanding of what
                    is wrong with your Non-Solid Group...

                    Name: TIG-solidsolver.rb

                    Menu: 'Tools' > 'SolidSolver'

                    Usage: [Note this works on v8/Pro only]

                    Please note that all instances of the group are solved together even if only one is selected. (So I've been obliged to explode one copy of the invalid solid group to keep the errors of the group on the same picture as the one solved)

                    http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TIG_SolidSolver.jpg

                    Wikii remove_inner_faces.zip

                    http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/RemoveInnerFaces_2.jpg

                    😎Simon

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                      EarthMover
                      last edited by 10 Apr 2012, 15:00

                      Nice Simon. Thanks for compiling links for these great scripts! Kudos to the authors as well!

                      3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
                      Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
                      Content Creator at Skapeup

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                        Pixero
                        last edited by 10 Apr 2012, 17:46

                        Thanks for the link. I'm always looking for better Tree creation software. Will try.

                        Not to hijack this thread but have you seen TreeSketch for iPad?
                        If not, take a look at these videos to what an amazing (and free!) app this is.
                        http://algorithmicbotany.org/TreeSketch/
                        Especially the fourth video (Direct manipulation) shows it off well.

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                          michaliszissiou
                          last edited by 10 Apr 2012, 18:10

                          @unknownuser said:

                          Not to hijack this thread but have you seen TreeSketch for iPad?

                          Interesting! BTW you're not hijacking at all.

                          @unknownuser said:

                          SU + Blender = war machine

                          True, but not for me. I'm the peacemaker. πŸ˜†

                          I use this ruby.
                          remove_inner_faces.rb

                          In any case, to have face's normals outwards, is the more important. No blue faces.
                          Is there a plugin for this job?

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                            andybot
                            last edited by 10 Apr 2012, 18:44

                            Wow, that remove innerfaces ruby is a great find! I've always done that manually. That can help with the native SU "orient faces" command to make sure faces are oriented properly (It messes up orientation with interior faces intersections.)

                            http://charlottesvillearchitecturalrendering.com/

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                              michaliszissiou
                              last edited by 10 Apr 2012, 19:01

                              Sorry, I can't remember who's the creator of this ruby. Maybe Pilou can help us.

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                                Gaieus
                                last edited by 10 Apr 2012, 19:13

                                Interesting because I also have that plugin but could not find in the plugins index (was going to link to it instead) nor in the ruby deport. The file inside says Wikii. But it is not listed under his submissions:

                                http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=323&t=28782#wikii

                                nor by any search:

                                http://forums.sketchucation.com/search.php?keywords=&terms=all&author=wikii&fid%5B%5D=323&sc=1&sf=firstpost&sr=posts&sk=t&sd=d&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search

                                Gai...

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                                  simon le bon
                                  last edited by 10 Apr 2012, 19:55

                                  @simon le bon said:

                                  I've experienced some difficulty to find the Wikii Inner faces Remover you are talking about.I was remembering this inner faces remover but too vaguely to be able to find it on the forums and have found it into my downloaded plugins repertory. It is not referenced as a normal plugin but it is a reply from Wikii to a Pilou's request.

                                  So here are the links :

                                  Pilou _ [Plugin] Internal surfaces
                                  http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=12668&p=92295#p92295

                                  Wikii remove_inner_faces.zip
                                  http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=12668&p=92295#p92295

                                  Simon

                                  Excuse me sirs, It seems to me that I have given the links πŸ˜‰

                                  PS1: This is the same ruby linked by Michalis
                                  PS2: I have pmed Jim to bring this to his attention that this ruby misses to his database πŸ€“

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                                    Gaieus
                                    last edited by 10 Apr 2012, 20:14

                                    All right, thanks, Simon. I have changed the OP now as well as the topic title and put Pilou's first post into a quote tag.

                                    I know there are some more plugins like this so they should be treated like this, too.

                                    Gai...

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                                      pilou
                                      last edited by 10 Apr 2012, 20:54

                                      Maybe you must add "initiator" because I have not written any lines of code for this one! πŸ˜‰

                                      Frenchy Pilou
                                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                      My Little site :)

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