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  • M Offline
    mspisz
    last edited by 4 Apr 2012, 20:28

    Hello,

    I am attaching the files, on the right is a photo of what I am trying to achieve and the left is my attempt in sketchup...

    [xxl-img:24j1hnhb]http://oi40.tinypic.com/2zqdiye.jpg[/xxl-img:24j1hnhb]

    Trying to model a wheel for a tank, however as you can see on the photo it has a really smooth curved look. I know if I was going to use software like Cinema 4d I could make simple geometry add add hypernurbs to get the desired look.

    However in Sketchup I was thinking that if I used RoundCorner plugin http://sketchupdate.blogspot.co.uk/2010/07/take-edge-off-roundcorners.html I could get the effect I want but it wont work.

    I wanted to ask is there any alternative to what I want to achieve. The wheel is just a starter as I am trying to model M103 Tank which will have a lot of curved faces.
    http://data3.primeportal.net/tanks/mark_holloway/m103/images/m103_4_of_4.jpg

    Thank you,

    Milo

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    • A Offline
      andybot
      last edited by 4 Apr 2012, 20:30

      have you tried artisan ?

      http://charlottesvillearchitecturalrendering.com/

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        pilou
        last edited by 4 Apr 2012, 20:44

        Or fredo6 Round Corner ?

        Frenchy Pilou
        Is beautiful that please without concept!
        My Little site :)

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        • M Offline
          mspisz
          last edited by 4 Apr 2012, 20:46

          Wow that looks amazing and could really help but unfortunately I am a poor student hence why I am using sketchup 😞

          Is there any alternative?

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            mspisz
            last edited by 4 Apr 2012, 20:47

            @unknownuser said:

            Or fredo6 Round Corner ?

            Well I do use Fredo round corner right now as mentioned before.

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              andybot
              last edited by 4 Apr 2012, 20:57

              the first version is not as expensive.

              http://charlottesvillearchitecturalrendering.com/

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                pilou
                last edited by 4 Apr 2012, 21:08

                @unknownuser said:

                but unfortunately I am a poor student

                If you want a free solution try 123D 😎
                (but it's real Nurbs, not "hyper Nurbs" of a polygon modeler πŸ˜‰
                It has a very powerlful fillet engine! 😲

                [flash=560,315:352n9v5s]http://www.youtube.com/v/THH9alBotK4[/flash:352n9v5s]
                [flash=560,315:352n9v5s]http://www.youtube.com/v/rtzDS9_VYSY[/flash:352n9v5s]
                [flash=560,315:352n9v5s]http://www.youtube.com/v/XfJM2z_tw0I[/flash:352n9v5s]

                Frenchy Pilou
                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                My Little site :)

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                  Roger
                  last edited by 4 Apr 2012, 21:45

                  What is your end product, a drawing or are you going to 3D printing? If the end product is physical how large will it be? If you are only doing a render, then just soften the line. There tools (already mentioned) to create the fillet but are you going to be able to see the result in your end product? Does it matter enough that you really need to acquire the tools.

                  http://www.azcreative.com

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                  • M Offline
                    mspisz
                    last edited by 4 Apr 2012, 22:35

                    Its not ment to be 3d Printed, its a personal project that I wanted practice the organic shapes in sketchup. Tanks are my interest and this M103 has a lot of curved faces that would be a challenge. I only wish to engage in this project and do my best to get a really good and well detailed 3D model.

                    I did a T-34 tank in sketchup before (rendered in cinema 4D) but that did not have that many curved/organic surfaces as you can see in the attachment.


                    T-34 Render 2.jpg

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                      Roger
                      last edited by 4 Apr 2012, 23:07

                      The choices I see are soften the line, create a quarter tube and tilt to fit and patch it in carefully, drag a fillet profile down that valley with the follow me tool and patch the ends, or use some specialty plugins that may or may not be expensive.

                      http://www.azcreative.com

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                        Roger
                        last edited by 4 Apr 2012, 23:08

                        By the way, nice models.

                        http://www.azcreative.com

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                          pilou
                          last edited by 4 Apr 2012, 23:15

                          Else you have The Sand Box with the Smoove Tool who can make more oganic form
                          But you must subdivide a little the Tin surface with the Add Detail tool!

                          Frenchy Pilou
                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                          My Little site :)

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                            mspisz
                            last edited by 4 Apr 2012, 23:27

                            @roger said:

                            The choices I see are soften the line, create a quarter tube and tilt to fit and patch it in carefully, drag a fillet profile down that valley with the follow me tool and patch the ends, or use some specialty plugins that may or may not be expensive.

                            I see what you are saying, I done it many times but for the wheel I was working on it might work, or I could just leave it but for the front of the tank and the turret itself it will not.

                            Would seem like I finally managed to find a limit of what you can do in sketchup.

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                              jeff hammond
                              last edited by 4 Apr 2012, 23:38

                              .

                              try this one … SDS BLEND.rb πŸ˜‰

                              [flash=853,480:336pv2l9]http://www.youtube.com/v/iTrbh0pAv64?version=3&hl=en_US&rel=0[/flash:336pv2l9]

                              *note- this is not a real tool in sketchup.. it's a mockup video for a feature request i made a couple of years ago.. it hasn't been made yet.. (and my fingers aren't crossed on it ever being made πŸ˜„ )

                              dotdotdot

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                                Roger
                                last edited by 4 Apr 2012, 23:40

                                Post that little segment of the wheel as a small model. I would like to see what I could do with it.

                                http://www.azcreative.com

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                                  Rich O Brien Moderator
                                  last edited by 4 Apr 2012, 23:52

                                  Not quite but a quick attempt with Artisan....

                                  Tank_Cap_Example.png

                                  Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp

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                                    mspisz
                                    last edited by 5 Apr 2012, 00:25

                                    @unknownuser said:

                                    .

                                    try this one … SDS BLEND.rb πŸ˜‰

                                    [flash=853,480:3af25c5m]http://www.youtube.com/v/iTrbh0pAv64?version=3&hl=en_US&rel=0[/flash:3af25c5m]

                                    *note- this is not a real tool in sketchup.. it's a mockup video for a feature request i made a couple of years ago.. it hasn't been made yet.. (and my fingers aren't crossed on it ever being made πŸ˜„ )

                                    Nice tool but why would you recommend it when it is not released?

                                    Roger I am attaching the file for you here.


                                    rogerfile.skp

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                                      mspisz
                                      last edited by 5 Apr 2012, 00:26

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      Not quite but a quick attempt with Artisan....

                                      [attachment=0:1rcz6zdu]<!-- ia0 -->Tank_Cap_Example.png<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:1rcz6zdu]

                                      Wow now that is pretty sweet looking. Seems like that software is quite useful

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                                        pilou
                                        last edited by 5 Apr 2012, 02:04

                                        You have also the free Ferrari who can make the same ! πŸ˜‰
                                        Just find the structure who can generate the tensile structure of your piece πŸ˜„

                                        Frenchy Pilou
                                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                        My Little site :)

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                                          jeff hammond
                                          last edited by 5 Apr 2012, 02:36

                                          @mspisz said:

                                          Nice tool but why would you recommend it when it is not released?

                                          i apologize.. i thought it was pretty obvious the manner in which my post was made but maybe not..
                                          won't happen again, sir.

                                          .

                                          dotdotdot

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