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    • thomthomT Offline
      thomthom
      last edited by

      Don't feel it's a whole lot I can do. I announce on facebook and twitter. Added the blackout to my blog (none visit - but just for the sake of it). Though since I am not an American I cannot write to congress.

      Really hope none of this nonsense is accepted. They are so manic in their ways of protecting themselves that they label everyone a criminal.

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      • Alan FraserA Offline
        Alan Fraser
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        I agree with it in principle, but am not sure it will have much effect with the hang 'em, flog 'em brigade that initiated similar overkill measures like the US Homeland Security setup.
        The blackout is so easy to overcome anyway....just hit Esc as soon as the page loads, but before it goes to the blackout screen.

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        • thomthomT Offline
          thomthom
          last edited by

          @alan fraser said:

          The blackout is so easy to overcome anyway....just hit Esc as soon as the page loads, but before it goes to the blackout screen.

          Or just disable Javascript. But that's not the point either - it's just to make people stop for a second and draw attention to the matter.

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          • TIGT Offline
            TIG Moderator
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            I think that the Wikipedia spokesman on the UK radio put it very well yesterday; he said,
            "Image that the car was invented about 15 years ago, and now everyone is using them [they can't do without them!]...
            Then a few people use cars in bank-robberies...
            The government over react and bring in draconian new laws affecting ALL car users...
            You protest...
            You are accused of supporting bank-robbery [subversive!]..."
            😒

            TIG

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            • V Offline
              valerostudio
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              The internet didn't stop Avatar from making a BILLION dollars globally. C'mon here! There is some bigger agenda. The government hates how the internet is the Wild West of our time. They want more control of it and are using the entertainment industry as a disguise.

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              • soloS Offline
                solo
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                Lets face it if it was not for twitter and Facebook the Arab spring would never have sprung.

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                • Mike LuceyM Offline
                  Mike Lucey
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                  @valerostudio said:

                  The internet didn't stop Avatar from making a BILLION dollars globally. C'mon here! There is some bigger agenda. The government hates how the internet is the Wild West of our time. They want more control of it and are using the entertainment industry as a disguise.

                  I'm thinking the same thing! However whatever they do manage to implement, I think the Net by its very nature and make up, will be difficult to fully control, thankfully.

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                  • Dan RathbunD Offline
                    Dan Rathbun
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                    The government (aka congressmen,) are motivated by ONE thing. TAXES. They cannot collect taxes on music, movies, books, etc., (either sales or inventory tax,) for items that don't pass over the sales counter (either physical or virtual.)

                    I'm not here much anymore.

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                    • EscapeArtistE Offline
                      EscapeArtist
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                      I disagree. This isn't government* doing this. This is the powerful entertainment and media industry in action bribing the government into creating this legislation.

                      Why?

                      Big Media says it's to protect against theft. They've already got the DMCA, encryption on DVDs, regular copyright law, fines and any number of other protections. Obviously they don't work. More isn't the solution.

                      It's not about theft, it's about control.

                      They want to control where music, videos and movies are released. They want to control how it is released, and they want to control who releases it. It's not about money to the government, taxes on media is no more or less important than any other taxable good.

                      It's about money to Big Media. If they control who, where, and how it is distributed, they can make money off each and every way it is handled, viewed or sold. That's what it's about. Want to link to something? Get permission and pay a fee. Want to spoof or lip sync an artist? Get permission and pay a fee. Ad nauseam.

                      *Lobbyists = campaign contributions or other kickbacks = legalized bribing. It is about government if you believe government is owned and run by Big Business lobbyists.

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                      • michaliszissiouM Offline
                        michaliszissiou
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                        @unknownuser said:

                        The government (aka congressmen,) are motivated by ONE thing. TAXES. They cannot collect taxes on music, movies, books, etc., (either sales or inventory tax,) for items that don't pass over the sales counter (either physical or virtual.)

                        Agreed, though it means something deeper. To steal all your money, your bank account, your home, your life. Your freedom by all means!
                        They don't listen, these people are elected by people, right? They don't represent voter's will. Such politicians are criminals of the worst kind. But I don't say IMO here. Just read the constitution of any democratic community-country you like. Carefully please!
                        I noticed, more and more people, these days, mentioning that democracy is a failure or something. Here comes the judgment day. Good luck to all of us.
                        It's just happening in 2012 and this makes me nervous 🤣
                        Make your voice louder, these politicians should start feeling this well known "fear". Fear of people, fear of god. Both are equally fine for me.
                        Sorry for the language barrier, I hope I made it clear enough.

                        @EscapeArtist, this could explain the motivations of some politicians. This wasn't my point. They Do Not Have the rights to do this.

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                        • EscapeArtistE Offline
                          EscapeArtist
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                          I must disagree again. Politicians do not get a percentage of taxes as a bonus, so there is no inherent reason for them to view lost taxes as a personal loss should they be reduced or lost.

                          They do have the "rights" to do this, they were elected to do this and could change the laws as needed to do what they wish. We the people are ignorant of the process due to the complexity of the political system and the difficulty of obtaining clear and concise information about how these events affect us.

                          They are slaves to the corporate money that pays their campaign financing.

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                          • MarianM Offline
                            Marian
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                            Two very good videos from TED.
                            This one explains what the side effect of SOPA will be. http://www.ted.com/talks/defend_our_freedom_to_share_or_why_sopa_is_a_bad_idea.html
                            and this one shows how the fashion world thrives and makes money without copyright.
                            http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/en/johanna_blakley_lessons_from_fashion_s_free_culture.html

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                            • mitcorbM Offline
                              mitcorb
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                              I am hearing that this legislation is a bad idea--that there are better ways to handle the problem. That's all I hear. I wonder what some of the better ways to handle this might be? [Personally, I believe no politician will ever provide the ultimate solution, and too much legislation stifles most everything it attempts to regulate]

                              I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                              • EscapeArtistE Offline
                                EscapeArtist
                                last edited by

                                The MPAA's thoughts on the matter:

                                http://consumerist.com/2012/01/mpaa-calls-anti-sopa-internet-blackout-a-pr-stunt-to-turn-us-all-into-corporate-pawns.html

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                                • michaliszissiouM Offline
                                  michaliszissiou
                                  last edited by

                                  @escapeartist said:

                                  I must disagree again. Politicians do not get a percentage of taxes as a bonus, so there is no inherent reason for them to view lost taxes as a personal loss should they be reduced or lost.

                                  They do have the "rights" to do this, they were elected to do this and could change the laws as needed to do what they wish. We the people are ignorant of the process due to the complexity of the political system and the difficulty of obtaining clear and concise information about how these events affect us.

                                  They are slaves to the corporate money that pays their campaign financing.

                                  "Politicians do not get a percentage of taxes as a bonus, so there is no inherent reason for them to view lost taxes as a personal loss should they be reduced or lost." and then this follows "They are slaves to the corporate money that pays their campaign financing." 😮

                                  As for the rest, I suggest you to read the constitution. You have some kind of constitution in your country, right? 💚

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                                  • EscapeArtistE Offline
                                    EscapeArtist
                                    last edited by

                                    Corporate lobby money == taxes paid to the government. They are separate issues.

                                    I fail to see your point referring to the constitution. If you imply that current methods run against the constitution's or our forefather's intent, you may be right; but you must also admit that the constitution came with the ability to be amended, which has happened many times, and therefor the current situation is also legal. like it or not.

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                                    • V Offline
                                      valerostudio
                                      last edited by

                                      Power in numbers. Looks like a lot of the congress supporters are backing out now. People always want to be on the winning team and we have everyone from EBay to Google opposing this thing. I'm sorry but I do not feel bad that Hollywood lost a few million because someone pirated Legally Blonde 2 (you would have to pay me to watch this) and posted it to the web. Just this weekend alone they grossed over $120 million! http://www.imdb.com/boxoffice/. Oh what, someone bootlegged Pokerface and put it on Youtube! Damn that really cut into Lady GagGa's $90million in record sales. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/lady-gaga-taylor-swift-forbes-earning-2011-274329

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                                      • thomthomT Offline
                                        thomthom
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                                        I would like them (Hollywood and Co.) why I should buy their DVDs that tell me five time repeatedly before the main menu (unskippable) how bad piracy is and how it is a crime - then their unskippable adverts. I paid for the damn film - and now I need to be taught a lesson on piracy in addition to see ads for film already out of date... somewhere the whole idea of customer experience got lost to them. Instead they focus their attention on blaming everyone and everything.

                                        Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                                        • michaliszissiouM Offline
                                          michaliszissiou
                                          last edited by

                                          @unknownuser said:

                                          I fail to see your point referring to the constitution.

                                          We, the people...

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                                          • EscapeArtistE Offline
                                            EscapeArtist
                                            last edited by

                                            @michaliszissiou said:

                                            We, the people...

                                            ...voted them into office and let them do what they do.

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